Sean: I am running the jet cd in iTunes, and it runs okay. However, I have tried to rip it, and it's protected. Oh well. I still like to crank it in the car. I don't care if it sounds derived. Perhaps this means that rock as a genre has actually, finally, gone full circle and there there is nothing new that can possibly be said . . . I would argue that this has happened to jazz, which means that it is officially classical music . . . Yes. I'm saying that rock may be classical music . . . Uh-oh!