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SACD/CD Question

I've got a question for you SACD guys. I don't have SACD, but have a high-quality two-channel system. I recently bought my first so-called hybrid compatible CD/SACD, a Sony recording, made live in the Berlin Philharmonie in 2002, of the Tchaikovsky Piano Concerto played by Arcadi Volodos, with the Berlin Philharmonic under Seiji Ozawa. I have no idea what this one sounds like on an SACD system, but on my two-channel system the orchestral sound is just conspicuously AWFUL! This was all the more surprising to me because I'd earlier bought the same pianist's performance of the Rachmaninoff Third Piano Concerto, also recorded live, in the same hall, in 1999, with the same orchestra under James Levine, also on Sony (but with a different recording engineer), and this one's NOT a hybrid compatible CD/SACD but a plain stereo CD, and it sounds just fine. Can anyone shed some light on what is going on here? I'm reluctant now to buy any more so-called hybrid compatible CD/SACD discs after getting burned.
texasdave
gaudio_eek
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Well said Wildoats. I'm currently doing the same in purchasing new music. If there is a hybrid SACD version of the same music, I would choose the hybrid if it means spending $1 or $3 more.
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kr4
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There's no assurance that the CD layer is superior to a contemporary Redbook release. If you want to compare hybrid CD layer with previous/older issues, that's another story.

Kal
aceto
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Without any corroborating evidence, I must mention that in the print media I noticed a story that said these bi-discs would have intentional degradation of the sound quality of the old format, another said that the player would degrade the old sound. This sounds somewhere between an ambush on the writer's side so conspiracy on the issuer side. But I do like my Phillips 963 and buy hybrids or straight sacd or dvd. It is rare that I buy a straight CD anymore. I am afraid of the future of my investment past and future in CD for format turnover. Oddly, I feel much safer buying a new LP.
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kr4
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You wrote: "Without any corroborating evidence, I must mention that in the print media I noticed a story that said these bi-discs would have intentional degradation of the
sound quality of the old format, another said that the player would degrade the old sound."

Sure. There are many reports. Just remember to pay attention to the first four words.

Kal
ben_campbell
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As somebody already said on this it depends on the mastering.

For example the Dylan SACD hybrids have been totally remastered on CD therefore they sound quite a bit better than the original releases.
This is true for most new SACD hybrid releases.

Paradoxically Sony after they released the SACD hybrids then released the Dylan series on CD alone-a marketing strategy bound to damage SACD.

Texasdave has found imho one of the odd anomolies that can exist in buying remastered material-for instance Kind Of Blue sounded worse to me on SACD (not a hybrid)than it did on the remastered CD version,others disagree on that though.
I would bet part of the problem may well have been expectation.

I beg to ask is the redbook layer remastered?
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