The Beatles

I'm sure grad that shubertmaniac was able to share his great knowledge of the histoy of rock! The bands and songs he's touting, The Animals "It's My Life"; "Get Off My Cloud"; Kinks' "All Day and All Night". He's here to tell us all that without the influence of these great bands rock would still be in the garage, huh. Seams to me these bands are just more pop top 40's in a different suit. I guess the influence that Robert johnson, Willie Dixson, Howlin' Wolf, Jimmy Rogers, Muddy Waters, Freddie King and John Lee Hooker all had on formulating the style of Keith Richards, Eric Clapton, Duane Almond, Jimmy Hendrix, Jerry Garcia, John Mayall, Allen Parsons, Bob Dylan etc. really ment nothing after all. Had the true inavators not listened to the Chicago Blues/ and the formation of the electric guitar we would have really followed the likes of the Animals, Mick Jagger, Chuck Berry and the Beach Boys along with the Beatles. Your right Shubertmaniac, if not for your great "British Bands" we couldn't have had real inivation in music! "get off your cloud son" I was thinking last night, the only guy I can think of that has transended all forms of rock is Clapton. He's been at the cutting edge of style developement, he tried his pop top 40's (too often)and blues. In my opinion, wich is worth what your paying, Clapton must be the greatest rock influence of all time. Any comments?

The beatles were good pop music for their time.I was listening and enjoying their music. IT IS OVER. GET OVER IT. There is lot more out there right now. Not just rock-pop and jazz. If you listen carefully hip-hop and electronic has lot more to it than given credit for. Hip-hop is being brushed aside mostly from the affluent community (read white)but listen aside from very well done sampling (sometimes better than the original), there is great quality of creation going on. Similar argument can be made about the electronic music.WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE!

Jademo: So what's your point?? We were never discussing the virtues of the Chicago blues or its influence on rock music of the 60s. The thread was about the Beatles and their influence Were you around then or what? Do you think the Beatles were the driving force in your musical life? I stated in this thread: no they were not and I stated who and why. I was crucified for my heresy but that's ok. If you wanted to talk about great guitar bands or legends ,there was a previous thread on the subject.

Clapton? Hardly in my opinion the greatest rock influence of all time. Has he made a decent record in years? I have to say Dylan has produced a much wider range of music and stretched what popular music was about and what a song could achieve. The Beatles have had an impact on popular music bigger than anybody, ever, irrespective of how good you think their music was (oh and I think it was rather good)partly because of the reasons highlighted on the threads above. Clapton was good but I don't think he is in the league of these two or anywhere near it...nor has he experimented as much as say Zappa or Bowie again irrespective of how good you think some of that music was......

This was my point Shubertmaniac, your starting thread followed by this quote thread of yours and all the other opinions you've expressed here: "Jademo, The London school of British imports were a much different breed from the Liverpool boys. They were going to make it in spite of the trash from the beatles. In fact the Beatles set back rock 10 years. Listen any American garage band worth their salt emulated the Animals, Rolling Stones or Yardbirds, that's why bad boys always get the chicks!! Is it not the reason for rock and roll, hey, do you know what rock and roll is slang for????? The point is The ANIMALS, STONES and YARDBIRDS had far less to do with rock than the music they learned from. I think rock could have made it without the ANIMALS!