SEPT 11?


I thought I'd take a moment to see if fellow A'gonners had any special plans. For me it will be pretty much buisness as asual.

I intend to take a personal moment of silence however,
2001impala
It's hard to argue with the statement that as a nation we delude ourselves into thinking we are both strong and safe. Poland allowed herself to be caught unaware. Everyone knew what was happening in Germany, Hitler made no pretense about rearming. He claimed to be "catching up" but we saw the result of that. I'm almost afraid to say this for being accused of antisemitism; which I deny, but the Jews have been persecuted so many times in their history they assumed this was just another burden to bear. They ignored Hitlers obvious and stated intentions to their own detriment. The point of all this is to say: we as a nation have done the same things with enemies internal and external.
I hope and pray that those who died last year did not die in vain. We need to wake up!
Bowbow,

I believe you misinterpreted my intentions. The point I was trying to make was very similar to that of Markanetz.

Comparing the fate of the Jews or an individual who is violated is essentialy comparing apples and squash. We aren't speaking of individuals but of a government body in which had failed not in one instance but several. Thus, allowing to events of 9-11 to occur. I am not suggesting that it was known exactly what would happen but I am suggesting that it was a result of callous disregard. Too frequently our law makers simply create "make happy" laws as opposed to addressing real issues. We can spend all days analyzing the symptoms of problems but, until we address the problem itself it never ceases or improves for that matter.

In Texas recently a law was passed lowering the blood alchohol level in which one is considered intoxicated as an attempt to deter fatal accidents caused by drunk drivers. Granted this would be a great idea if the responsible adult who goes out to dinner with his or her family and has a single glass of wine was the culprit which is all the alchohol consumption in which is required to get a DWI. The events of Sept. 11 are similar in nature we have known for years what terrorists groups posed a threat as well as the fact that several of thier members were in our country. What did our government do about it? Nothing.

Damon
Without trying to get into a big political mess over this, there is a boatload of evidence that the Federal gov't had mucho prior knowledge that this event was going to take place, and did nothing to stop it. Why that may be is up for discussion, but there are even lawsuits filed by FBI agents who tried to warn the Justice Dept. and were ignored. The lawyer representing them, is the same guy who prosecuted Clinton in the House impeachment proceedings. I can't remember his name. He even went to Ashcrofts office to warn him, and they said that they wouldn't see him. These 3 FBI agents are now filing suit for ignoring them and failing to protect the American people. These same FBI agents were told that if they said anything about being ignored they would be arrested under national security violations. Now tell me that something isn't terribly wrong.
Twl,

I am a letter carrier as stated before. After seing what goes on behind closed doors within the USPS I wouldn't doubt you for a second. Except, in our buisness these sorry ba$tards call it protecting the sanctity of the mail.
I am disappointed in how the members choose to derail the intent of this thread. It's all rememberance. Go start another thread if you want to complain, criticize, posture your beliefs, etc.
I took my team to lunch today and told them that if anyone asked how I choose to spend my time in rememberence today, it was that I spent some time with people that really mean something to me and that I love very much - which is all true - we have been together for years and are more like a family that coworkers.
I think that is a big part of the lesson - to not take life, loved ones for granted and to appreciate every moment.
Peace,
Angela