DIY Wilson Clone Speakers?


I'm interested if anyone has found plans on the net for building speakers similar to Wilson's. I have toyed with the idea of building speakers based around the already legendary Focal Audium TLC tweeter and other Focal / Scan Speak speakers that are used in the Wilson Grand Slam III.

Anybody seen plans out there? The part I'm most nervous about is the crossovers, their components and design.

Any help or direction would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
Brad
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http://www.klone-audio.com/

Eldragan probably knows the other link with clones--his are featured.

Advices:

1) You might want to biamp for your low-end. That'll cut you some slack on the xover in different ways. Assuming you're ok with deviating from the clone that much-it would/could be an improvement. marchandelec.com and sound.au.com

2) Wilson X-1's aren't using those big $700 Focal Audiom subs, even though they look the same from the front. Its got a smaller motor--they may be custom made.

3) Don't know for sure, but you may not be able to clone any of them to the driver so you can A) get as close as you can or b) since you know it won't be exact, use "better"/next step up drivers from focal or whoever and just copy the basic enclosure. (Take some liberties of your own) The tweets might be off-the-shelf--I didn't think Wilson spent money on TLR's though on the X-1. I think the earlier x-1's used seas drivers for the mids.

Personnally, I'd clone the puppy/watt things like eldragan did. It looks good, cabinetry not a headache. I think its a better route. I don't like MTM/D'appolito arrays like the X-1 uses. He's got'em pictured on a thread in the archives.
This is from Thorsten Loesch's website:

The great David-Jerico Speaker Project - DIY Speaker inspired by the Wilson Audio Watt/Puppy System

http://www.fortunecity.com/rivendell/xentar/1179/projects/david/david.htm

Good Luck,
Jim Dombrowski
The Wilsons use good drivers in exceptional cabinets, and it is the cabinets that are hardest to reproduce, especially using MDF.

I'd malso suggest a WATT/Puppy clone and there are several designs listed above. You could do a search for Wilson clones using Google. I've seen WAMM clones I think but I don't recall where.

If I were building a WATT/Puppy clone, I would try to match the original as there are newer, poissibly better drivers and the crossover would be too tough.

I'd look at something like SEAS W26 for the Puppies instead of Dynaudio 21w54 they used. Then the SEAS W18 EX for the midrange instead of the Scanspeak 8545 and either the SEAS Millenium tweeter or the Focal Audiom mentioned above.

As far as cabinets, build them using the thickest MDF you can with good bracing, and I'd seriously consider having the front baffle made out of Corian.

I'm not a crossover expert but if it were me I'd use an active digital crossover like the dbx Driverack PA (www.driverack.com) and triamping.

This way you can measure and tweak to your hearts content.

You could build the above for $1600 for the drivers, $500 for the crossover and the cost of the cabinets. It should sound great done well.

Good luck
Thanks for everyone's help, it is much appreciated!

I'll post any updates or links I find to projects.

Thanks again,
Brad
It was fun! At times frustrating but well worth it. I was concerned with same issues, Steved is mentioning, and used extensive bracing (check North Creek Music) and a lot of lead sheet inside the "Watt" cabinet to mimik density and weight of the original cabinet materials. X-over is easy but parts can be expensive. If you have any more questions you can e-mail me.

http://home.att.net/~dragan_v/home.html

Regards!

Regards!