Is the significance of room acoustics overrated?


Don't get me wrong as I realize just how important room acoustics are (I think).

However, let me share some recent experiences:

In our previous home, an audio reviewer/columnist evaulated my system. Very positively I might add. Anyway, upon telling him that my family and I were preparing to relocate to the West coast after his 3 hour evaulation, he responded with "good luck trying to find another room with these acoustics." And I knew exactly what he meant.

Well, we found a home that may have had even better room acoustics but it failed the home inspections. I'm still bummed about that one, but it was on to the next...

We settled on another home and it was either the living room or the family room for my listening room. Because of it's isolation from other rooms (very open floor plan) I selected the family room even though the living room had better acoustics and immediately had an electrician install the dedicated lines there. But this family room has no where near the level of acoustics of my previous room.

Although the same basic sonic characteristics where there in the new room, the bass had peaks and valleys like a rollercoaster. And off-and-on over the next 7 months, I'd move the speakers around trying to locate the best position for overall best performance/best compromise.

Lo and behold about a month ago, I located a position in which the bass peaks and valleys have all but disappearded and overall and in some ways the absolute bass control and response as well as the overall presentation is even better than my previous room.

Of course I can't help but wonder what if I had devoted this kind of attention to speaker placement in my previuos room with better acoustics?

But at the same time, I find it difficult to believe that simply relocating the speakers to an 'optimal' location could cause the interactions with the room's poor acoustics could be minimalized to such a degree.

Therefore, I ask:

Aside from ensuring basic room treatments i.e. thick wall-to-wall carpeting and padding and generally good room demensions/symmetry, etc. is not speaker placement far, far more important?

And lastly, I suppose this thread may offer hope for some that there very well be a better speaker placement to cover a multitude of sins in what should be deemed an otherwise acoustically poor room.
stehno
I'd say room treatment is underrated. OTOH, it's not easy to clutter up a room with bass traps, panels, etc (WAF, etc) or very expensive to do unobtrusively.

In a "correctly" sized room, modes will be lesser, esp. in the bass. A treated room will attenuate these even further & help in avoiding spurious reflections that destroy imaging, etc -- the "magic". In an untreated room, speaker positioning is critical: not only for precise imaging at the listening spot, but also to limit modes & reflections. In a treated room, speaker placement is more a matter of getting imaging & depth correct, the treatment having dealt with the other (difficult) aspects.
Who told you that "thick wall-to-wall carpeting and padding" is a proper way to get good sound in all rooms under all circumstances?
EVERY room - including every concert hall - has its own characteristics and is never THE best! A carpeted one hardly ever can be! And even in a hall which is famous for its sound like Vienna, Amsterdam or SF you will have seats which are not so good. Don't overrate the single problem like room, speaker setting, toeing in etc. Everything is linked and working together or against eachother in every environment. And when you think you have done the job with orchestral music you listen to a big organ over your system and all the magic might be gone. Or you will have the "right" sound for a jazz club (Van Morrison - live in LA for a (fantastic!) example)and your Shostakovitch 11th breaks apart - over the SAME system. In the SAME room. For the SAME ears! So relax and don't trust those "THE BEST, THE ULTIMATE"-people. It's all relative - which exactly is part of the magic of music!
Unfortunately the room itself, by virtue of its box-like structure and hard, flat surfaces, influences the sound. Slap echo, standing waves and the tremendous build-up of sound pressure levels in all (8) room corners are three big problems that spring to mind.
I figure that speaker placement and the characteristics of the room are interrelated.
I have my speaker correctly placed to minimize the effects of the room, and my TacT RCS unit still imroves the sound,
which can be quickly determined by using the bypass control. Speaker placement is only one part of dealing with your room. Passive or electronic treatment is needed to deal with the other aspects.