Upgrading Power Supply Caps


I'm about to purchase a fine used amp. Over time, however, I can see going the mod route, and with this particular amp (Forte 4a), I've read it does better with more power supply capacitance (makes sense to me). Do I need audio grade capacitors (e.g. VH audio caps, etc) for this mod, or does this portion of the amp circuit not require such quality?

Thanks in advance,
mprime
Jeff, "Rock", and Sean, you each offered something I would not have considered otherwise. Know that is appreciated.

Best,

Lee
While I agree with Sean that multiple filter caps result in a lower ESR. I do not share his affinity for Schottky bridge rectifiers. They will work but the expense/benefit ratio is very low. The jury is out on the benefits of Shottky diodes. Some say the diodes need to be fast to respond the charging requirements of the electrolytics but lets face it, with modern amps having 50,000uF + of capacity per rail, the discharge time constants are so long that regular diodes have no trouble keeping those caps charged.
Liguy: It's not only a matter of response time, it's a matter of ringing. Faster diodes produce less ringing and this can be seen as a reduction in harmonic content in the power supply. In case you haven't noticed, JA has recently measured quite a few amps that suffer from a measurably high harmonic content coming out of the rails. The use of higher quality rectifiers that are faster and produce less ringing would minimize / negate that problem. This is the reason that some folks think that Schottky's and other "fast" diodes "lean out" the device that they are installed in. That is, they get rid of the artificial "warmth" that the slow, ringing diodes contribute to the sonics of the device they were installed in.

As a case in point, Nelson Pass has never been a fan of "fast" rectifiers. Then again, most of his amps have never been known as being "bass monsters" either. As such, installing "fast" rectifiers into his older designs resulted in a presentation that he thought was too lean sounding, hence he didn't recommend that mod. He has recently taken a liking to these devices and his latest amps are making use of them. My guess is that he's found a way of taking advantage of them while retaining the sonic signature that he prefers.

This is something that everyone should think about. That is, many components are voiced based on specific system conditions. If the component was voiced with "dirty" AC coming into it, removing all of the grunge may leave you with a different sound ( for better or worse ). On the other hand, running a device on dirty AC that was voiced using highly filtered AC may not deliver the sonics that the unit is capable of providing. While "clean" AC should always work best, there are so many ways to "clean" AC and so many different component designs, it's quite possible that some combo's may not work that well together. If in doubt, contact the manufacturer and see what they say. Good quality gear already has quite a bit of filtering built into it and would be voiced accordingly. Sean
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Mprime, come to think of it here are a few other observations. The Forte 4A was perhaps the most well received amp in Forte's brief history. While the compulsion to get more of a good thing is very persistant in audio, consider preserving the balance the 4A already possesses.

Upping the storage capacity of the large can caps significantly, say more than 25%, may necessitate a new bridge rectifier. Go too far and you'll need a bigger transformer. How much sleep do you want to lose :^)

In short, I'd look for 7A monoblocks before I went off the deep end modding an already terrific product like the 4A. Of course no condition is permanent so whatever you decide, have fun with it!
Well, you're right, Rock - as I listen to this amp I am quite happy, and if I'm inclined to upgrade, it's now the preamp.

I guess I'm just surprised how much amp I got for my $500.

BTW, I popped the hood of the Forte and wow: what a beautifully simple design! I don't know why I was expecting something much more complicated, but I can actually understand the circuit and it is layed out so cleanly. Really have respect for Mr. Pass as a designer.