Monster Power conditioners. Anyone using one?


Yes,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I know that there are much more expensive power conditioners out there. I've read all about the Changs, Audio Magics, Richard Gray, Shunyata,PS Audio etc.

The thing is, my gilfriend wants to buy me a $300 gift and unfortunately, nothing I want is that inexpensive. I currently don't any power conditioning on my system.
I'm looking at the HTS3600 as a starter power conditioner. Any opinions or other suggestions?
meech33
Well crap, i dont have enough plugs in the wall for my gear. I need at least uhh... 1.2.3....4... maybe 5?

i dont get it. it seems like everyone here is agianst power conditioners, i thought everbody was for them... does anybody use these but me?
Slappy:
Systems with low resolution will APPEAR to produce a cleaner signal with a line conditioner. Remember,” when you drain the swamp you expose the alligators”. ANY device on the supply side of the electronics must face the full wrath of the line [AC current], there is no protection from the power supply. The switching of the AC line is intense, devices like resistors, capacitors, wire etc. will resonate or ring to the tone of the 60 HZ; this creates distortion. The greater the overall resolution the more obvious this problem becomes. Surge protectors attempt to “clamp” the AC; produces even greater harmonic difficulty.
If you need greater outlet capacity then use a power strip that plugs directly into the outlet with no power cord,Woods makes a real nice one that can be "daisy chained" together.
"The switching of the AC line is intense, devices like resistors, capacitors, wire etc. will resonate or ring to the tone of the 60 HZ; this creates distortion. The greater the overall resolution the more obvious this problem becomes"

OK, so I want some AC conditioning right?

"Surge protectors attempt to “clamp” the AC; produces even greater harmonic difficulty."

So I dont want it?? Elaborate please. I understand the implication, but it lacks an explanation.

" Systems with low resolution will APPEAR to produce a cleaner signal with a line conditioner."

Alright, so systems with poor resolution will "sound" better, but in actuality they "sound" worse, when AC conditioning/surge protection is present. Is it safe to assume high resolution systems will "sound" worse but in actuality will "sound" better under the same conditions. I need to brush up on my Fractal Geometry.

Forgive me, but I more confused than ever now. Or maybe I am thinking clearly and I just think I am confused. Aww, forget it, maybe the Alligators know.
Slappy for test: Plug your Denon 3803 direct into the wall,then plug your favorite source piece into the unswitched ac output of the receiver. Plug your sub directly into the wall. These are the only pieces that need to hooked up at this time to do this evalation..Tom
Hey Slappy, I'm not against power conditioners. I'm against inferior conditioners which usually screw up the music, rather than let it happen. I don't relate to anything you're using. Just having your cdp on the same line as your analog is a big negative. Electricity is very mystical. Its' properties hard to define, measure, and really understand in the "sound" sense. I'm in heaven with my Audio Magic stuff. (read under system) I did have the opportunity to disconnect everything and listen with and without, several times. Even with dedicated lines, there is a VERY big difference. Soundstage like I never heard. It's a personal thing. Very system dependent. Save your money and like Tom said, put in some dedicated lines. At least separate your digital from your analog. That may do it for you. When you got the $$$, buy a used Audio Magic Mini Stealth and the Mini digital. That'll, probably be your first step in upgrading your entire system. It was for me. Funny, though, after I thought I was done I traded up to the Audio Magic Matrix. Now I'm there. I know it's a temporary thing, but it's great for now. ...now, to get into montor stands...just fool'n ya. BTB: Tom, your laconic way is so refreshing--to the bone.. peace, warrren