Frogman, trying to have a discussion with R2id is truly an exercise in futility! This guy believes that what he THINKS is actually FACT. He's the type of guy who loves hearing himself talk. He doesn't allow for the possibility that he may be mistaken or that someone else knows more than he does. He hangs out at an audio site but is anti-audiophile. He claims he hangs here 'cause he's a music-lover. If that's the case, why not go to Jazzcorner, Allaboutjazz, or Organissimo, the guy's totally illogical. Just look at the stupid statements he's made on this thread alone, his arrogance is only surpassed by his ignorance! He's truly got an Archie Bunker mentality.
'I for one, am going down swinging.'
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Against what? Against who? 50 yrs from now we'll all be gone but you know what'll still be around? THE MUSIC!!! Old AND new! If you fail to recognize this fundamental reality you truly know nothing. Stick to yr golden oldies lovefest but try to control yourself when the adults are having a conversation! I'd tell you to look up Congo Square but you undoubtedly think you know all there is to know about that place and time, don'tcha Archie!?;)