U.P.S., have you had any problems with them?

My company ships over 100,000 packages every year with UPS and while there is an occasional mishap, overall, they are a superb shipper. They almost always deliver on time, and when they don't, you don't have to pay - even on ground shipments! You can also track your package on the web at UPS.com. Giving your buyer the tracking number of your shipment and letting them know they can track it on the web gives them that extra bit of security in a mail order transaction. The only other shipper that I trust is FedEx, but they are more expensive.

Yes, but try shipping fragile items with UPS and watch what happens if they aren't packaged for war. I am sure companies such as Amazon.com ships truck loads of non fragile items with UPS, such as books, with out damage problems. There are probably many companies who ship many things with UPS with out problems, unfortunately, none of them are high end audio dealers that we know of who do any kind of real volume. We have seen first hand how dozens of ship companies handle their packages once they arrive to their hubs, and UPS doesn't score high based on what we have seen and on our experiences with them. FED EX scores high, and so do Emmery and Air Borne, but know one has done a better job for us than DHL. Experience has brought us to DHL. Only when we have bent our policies to accomodate a customers request have we had a shipping problem this year (via UPS). Bottom line: I am sure we shipped more hifi last month than you will ship in your life time, and shipping hifi is the issue, and shipping it with UPS is the problem. PLEASE, do not try to tell us about the UPS (ground) tracking service. We know all about it. Really a great service when you call about a delayed or lost package and all the operator has been able tell us was: "yes, we show that, that package was picked up for delivery"! It's like a bad joke. BTW: No, FED EX is NOT "more expensive" than UPS, but if you are comparing 1, 2 or 3 day air to UPS ground, you are comparing an air service to a ground service. Compare oranges with oranges. If your going to compare costs, compare UPS 1, 2, & 3 day to FED EX 1, 2, & 3 day. They are about the same, and in many cases FED EX is actually LESS. You can't compare a ground service to an air service. Get it there on time and in the same condition it left it. www.dhl-usa.com . You get what you pay for.

I didn't notice at first that Hello HiFi was actually the poster of this message/request. Here's what I don't understand - it is evident from all your various posts on this site that not only does your company not ship via UPS, but you also have great disdain for them ("NO UPS, NO UPS, NO UPS"). That is fine. That is your opinion and your experience. Why then, put a post out soliciting feedback ("feedback needed") for a company you have already COMPLETELY formed your opinion about? If anyone says anything positive about UPS you are going to vehemently disagree, and if anyone says anything negative about UPS, you are going to say "Amen." What then, is the purpose of this post? Just to alert AudioGon users not to use UPS because you have had numerous bad experiences with them? If that's what your goal is, that's fine too. Just don't do it under the portent of "feedback needed." To clarify two other things, no, I was not comparing UPS ground pricing to FedEx air pricing and I never stated such. If you don't believe me, go to UPS.com and Fedex.com and pick the same level of service and the same origination and destination zip codes and see which company charges more. More often than not, FedEx will be higher. Secondly, I used to work at a high end hi fi dealer in Florida and would say 80-90% of the shipments we received from the manufacturers were shipped via UPS. Sure, there was an occasional mishap (as I stated in my first post), but about 98% of the time, everything arrived in fine shape. If, as you state, "shipping hifi is the issue," then why do most all hifi manufacturers continue to use UPS to transport their product if they are so bad about handling packages? To bottom line this whole thing, why don't you just put out a post that says "UPS sucks, DHL rules" and leave it at that. If you ask for feedback, be aware that not everyone will have the same opinion as you. My experience with over 100,000 packages shipped with UPS in the last 12 months is that they are a reliable shipper. Your experience is the opposite. So what. You're not right, and I'm not wrong. It's just two different opinions.