Hi Fi Car Audio

I'm not exactly sure what you are talking about Gallusm. "been to a rock concert recently? Grow up!" For starters any rock concert that I've been to sounds like utter crap and if you call what you hear at a rock concert dynamics I think that you are confused. And if you can honestly say that your $30,000 system does not sound as dymanic as your $5,000 car audio system then something is extremely worng with your home system. I do think that all the Boston stuff that I've heard sounds good for being in the car and I'll look in to the Sony Es and ADS power amps and thank you every one for your response they have helped me. I'm currently running two Soundstream amps and a Pheonix Gold amp. As for the Fujitsu Ten stuff I think that I've heard better but who's to say until you get it in your car and listen, because everyones ears are different and everyone's cars are different. Thanks again.

Maybe dynamics was the wrong description. I didn't say my car system sounded better than my home system. My listening room is 20" x 20" and my car cabin is much smaller. I can generate much higher spl's in my car than I can at home and at a much lower cost. The home system is more detailed without question and also plays very loud, which I sometimes like. When I get in the car I like to crank it up and enjoy. I know it won't offer what my home system will, but it sounds very good with a reasonable amount of detail which is good enough in the car. It will however play very very loud with huge low end and without any hint of strain. Sometimes this can be very enjoyable. Being a musician for almost 20 years I know that rock concerts don't always sound the greatest. So why do we go? Well, it offers a sense of excitement and high spl's which are hard to recreate in the home. No, I'm not just about loud, but sometimes it's fun and that's where the car comes in. I like to have vocals in my face and bass that goes through my chest at times. Recently I was asked to attend a Metallica concert.(no I didn't build a $30,000 home system to play Metallica, although it will in spades). No, I'm not even a big fan of their music, but my friend convinced me to go. At about twenty rows from the stage, let me tell you it was not only emotional but the most powerful concerts I have seen in the sense of sheer power, which can definitely move you in more ways than one. I wouldn't say the sound was crap either, but it was loud! Anyway, my point is don't bash different musical interests(car audio), as you would't want people to criticize what your into. Maybe I got carried away the first time around in my response.

Gallusm, I bet why you can't tell that much diffrence between your car and your home system is you have been listening to loud in the car and have been to, to many loud rock shows and have lost much of your hearing. Every time you listen loud for an extended period of time over 90db you do irreprable damage to your hearing.

hi-fi audio? buy an alfa romeo, yank the radio, & listen to that motor sing!

It seems to me that some of the peolpe that posted above have a pretty closed mind when it comes to car-audio. I think it is safe to say that they haven't sat in a car that has been done right. In my car I have an Eclipse 5303 cd tuner, a Pioneer DEQ 9200 eq/digital delay/crossover, ADS AL-6 mids(6 1/2")/tweeters (1"),and a JL audio 12W6 sub-woofer. All speakers are driven by Rockford Fosgate(same company as Hafler for you closed minded people) amplifiers. There is 50 wpc to each mid and tweeter and a dedicated 450w to the sub. All the crossover work is done actively by the Pioneer DEQ 9200. The thing that makes the most difference in my system is the abilty to adjust the amount of delay time between all of the individual drivers as needed. I am positive that this car has better imaging than 95% of the high-end home systems I have heard in the past 15 years. The delay and the low kickpanel placement of the mids and tweeters makes the distances from ear to left door, and ear to right door as close as possible to perfect. Put in some good music(Sheffield Labs, Mo-fi, DCC, or whatever) and it flat kicks ass. It sounds like there is music coming from 3-4 feet outside the drivers window. The Missing Link, Thelma Houston, James Newton Howard, Usual Suspects cd's by Sheffield are even more fun to listen to in the car than in the house. I have never heard these discs sound better anywhere, period! Car audio can sound every bit as good as home audio IF you do it right! For the $5000 I have put in my car, I would have to spend at least twice that amount to even come close in a home system.I have yet to hear a home system with bass as tight, quick, and musical as a properly built car system. Impact and low end extension is not even a contest. Put in any organ track with a 16hz pedal and you will then understand. Tocotta and Fugue in d by Michael Murray on Telarc is a perfect example to listen to. All I am trying to say is that if you put a lot of time in building a car sytem correctly and spent a lot of time tweaking it, you can have excellent sound in a car. I suggest you get off your high horse and try building a car system correctly before you say that it can't be done. I think you will change your mind in a hurry.