Vinyl or wait for the new stuff??

Like hell!!! You just are full of crap, Joe. Please assume room temperature, before you explode (from being so full of crap). My vinyl front end costs less than my digital, and vinyl is easily better (and that's saying a lot, since my digital is at least as good as yours, if not better...for CD's only, anyway). YOU NEED TO GET A THORAZINE PRESCRIPTION, and continue the research I gave you, on what's behind a black hole's event horizon. Whatever that is, I'm sure it can be modeled digitally, so you'll be in heaven...the only way you could ever get to heaven, that is.

For what's it's worth, maybe not much to this list which spends more than I can on their equipment: I recently expanded into vinyl just to be able to hear rock music from the 60s and 70s, which isn't always available on cd. I got a used Thorens TD 166 Mk-II and added a new Grado ZF1+ cartridge. Pretty modest stuff. Using McIntosh C-28 or AVA SUper Pas III phono stage preamp, Meadowlark hotrot spkers. Have to say, when I'm able to find a mint LP, few scratches, and well-recorded (not all were despite my romanticized recollection), it's great fun. The sound is hard to distinguish from that my mcintosh MCD-7007 puts out, unless it's playing a really well-produced cd. Moreover, it is delightful, musical some would say, to listen to the vinyl. Get a bad LP, though, scratchy etc., and it can give you abit of a headache. All told, I'm pretty happy with the 250 bucks I spent to hear the music of my youth in a satisfying format.

David99: go home & cry to mamma ! Joe is criticizing my equipment on which you wasted all those $$$! C'mon, face it, not everybody thinks the same way. Respect other people's opinions or risk becoming a pariah like eber.

joe_in_coherent "Not everybody thinks the same way" Thanks for saying that! Misconceptions about vinyl vs CD is fueled by blow hards like you.Again,if you really stand by your silly remarks then,yes you are a clueless man.Are you going to end up being thrown out of audiogon like you have other sites? I have read you are very antagonistic and a real pain in the ass.Now speaking of "momma",she died 2 weeks ago.Just thought you might like to know.

imho, a $2k-$4k digital rig will be only marginally better (if at all) than a $500 digital rig, if run thru an excellent preamp. my <$3k analog rig (fono-stage included) will sound nicer than *any* digital rig at *any* price, imho. of course, i stress this is *my* opinion... doug