Do Dealers think it is sinful..........

Kendall43, sorry to shake your tree but I don't believe you either. I live in NYC where there are many, many Hi-end dealers and have yet to find one that discounts 25% across the board. Oh, and lose the attitude, we are all adults here and there is no need to call each other names. We can disagree more maturely than that.

Yes, but why are price breaks so hard to get? It seems to me that one consensus of this thread is that if you invest the time in your dealer he will eventually give you a break. I think the opposite, if you keep paying full price why would they suddenly give you a breaK? p.s. in my own shopping, I go to the same dealers and rarely do they appear symphatic to price breaks, even after many purchases. Maybe that's just the area I live in?

I buy from a dealer from the NYC area and he has always given me 25-30% off everything I have purchased from him.He also spends 10-15 minutes per phone call when I have a question on something he has or just for advice.I guess one just has to find the right dealer.

John_l: Gary at Audio Gallery is THE BIGGEST jerk I have ever met. He is a complete loser with no idea of what it means to appreciate a customer that walks in the door. In this "high end" audio business, there are so few of us to begin with, that to continually treat potential customers with the lack of respect as Gary does, is a disservice to the consumer and the manufacturer. I would rather listen to Bose than to give my business to Audio Gallery

On the other hand, the "used store" you mentioned, is probably Echo Hifi. They are terrific people with a true understanding of the business. Not only are they passionate about audio, they also treat their customers as friends. They will always have a loyal customer base.

Cornfedboy: I think you are incorrect of your assessment of "discounting". I believe it is illegal to "price fix". It is done to force the consumer to deal with the local dealer regardless of how the dealer treats the consumer. Many manufacturers will also pull their product from a dealer if they sell outside of their territory. This too is illegal. If you can cite case law, I am willing to listen.

Zel0t@nsc.edu: My point exactly... MSRP stands for Manufacturer's SUGGESTED Retail Price. It certainly is not illegal to use MSRP, but to force a dealer to charge that amount and not allow them to discount is illegal.