retro: gosh , i guess you would have written, say, a 3000 word response if i didn't bore you. BTW, i am quite familiar with the home of the fighting illini. i have a couple or three of degrees from the univ. of iowa (hence my monikor). we always called your school simply "illinois." never figured those schools in chicago, etc. were a part of the big 10, er, 11. at least since the univ of chicago last won the rose bowl. betcha i've been in your audio shop, tho not when you worked there. FWIW, i'm not a terrorist, despite what carl_eber rants. bury your hatchet, retro. you'll feel better. peace.