Need sub recommendations for vr4 jr's


Hope this is the right place for this thread... no listing for subs elsewhere, especially for stereo use...

I have a pair of VR4 JR's. ..and a Velodyne CT10 sub... I know the sub can be improved upon and that is my aim shortly. I can spend around $1000, new or used doesn't matter to me... I'd prefer runing two, I 'think'... wich means another $1000... later.

My idea is to gain a sub for stereo - music... I'm thinking Velodyne once more but a 12 or 15 SPL R or higher.. and perhaps TWO 12'S... but dont' really know

I'm running the little 10 via the line inputs right from the preamp... with no crossover that way it runs up to 200 hz... and actually I like the extra lift to the music the increased freq range gives... never having a REAL DECENT/GOOD sub though, perhaps I'm listening wrong...

the room is just under 14 wide, and right at 20 long, with two openings into hallways that will eventually be closed offf with the addition of doors of some type ... so not entirely closed offf yet, but wil be.

Please help, and thank you very much for sharing your experience...
blindjim
ACI -- Force and Titan
Axiom -- EP-500 or the lower models
HSU -- several models avail.
Definitive Technology -- Supercube I, II & II subs
. . . that's all I can think of at the moment within your price range.
Most home audio subs dont perform well in the range that you wish to enhance. I would recommend passive live sound reinforcement or PA type bass systems. They excel at mid bass. Mackie and JBL come to mind. Check out www.sweetwater.com.
I do appreciate the info & experiences... the additional range I seek may well be attended to as we speak... via power cords at several locations... I've a noticeable presence there now... also in some tube replacements.

I suppose, given info from others I've met here having a non detented phase correction, switch, the ability to overcome or eliminate the crossover in the sub itself are important.... and IMO, a seemless integration with the JR's most important... funny I've not seen anyone mention good ol' Velodyne... or Bob Carvers offerings... they are certainly popular... one current REL owner says if he had to do it all over again he's go ACI... 'TITAN'...

Correct me if I'm wrong here... but I'd as soon run the thing in stereo off the RCA OUTS on my preamp... foregoing the additional speaker wire purchaseing... is that wrong? ...of am I missing something?
Just to answer a couple of the aforementioned queeries... Nope. No lead shot as yet.... soon, though.

I'm overly spiked in the JR area. Shotgun wires and recently used the Cardas setup John at Cardas set me onto... and the results were distinctively better in terms of bottom end performance. I was very close to begin with and just a few inches off their suggested mark (s)... using the 5 foot x 8foot rectangle and the resulting diagonal line to set the unit upon and thus reduce/eliminate two room nodes. Big improvement! Amazed me. I had about resigned myself to just living with where I had them...and the dreary toneless bass at between 50 & 60hz.. and it's multiples. Way better now. Really. 'Course, I ain't too big on how far into the room they are but I've enough space just now.

The Def TECH was one I thought to get though all the info and reviews pointed to more HT than stereo applications for those subs... consequently, I'll pass on the DT LINE UP.

YEP THE jr'S ARE CAPABLE OF DECENT BASS. pRODIGIOUS AMOUNTS ACTUALLY GIVEN THE TRACK INFO. Though I'd as soon have more flexibility and impact than I have now... That's all. ...and I've grown acoustomed to a more bass laden presentation... like bakc in the day when FM first came around... a really warm, full bodied dark presentation... though with more detail. I lean towards the lush and dark side of things I guess along with as sweet a top end as can be had.

So unless I get some input that truly can sway me from my current ideal, I'll probably end up waiting and getting one of the ACI Titan's... unless of course there is one with more musicallity for not much more... (used or new makes little diff to me here), and of course with the flexibility the Titan offers.