Velodyne DD's flying out of owners' houses

Well I have owned a DD-10 for a couple of years and
have had no problems with it all. I let a friend of
mine borrow my sub for a few weeks. He was so impressed
with it that he went out and purchased a DD-10 for himself.

About 2 weeks later he had a problem. The sub would shut
itself down. He contacted Velodyne and they suggested
he send the amp portion of the sub in. He did and got
the new amp back in a week. A few hours after installation it failed again!! This time he sent the whole sub back to Velodyne. After about a week he got it back and, you guessed it, it failed again.

He emailed Velodyne and they got back to him a few days later. Not only did they give him a new sub, they upgraded him to a DD-12. Needless to say the DD-12 has been performing without a hitch. He is now very happy with the DD-12 and I'm a bit jealous.

Given this kind of service I would buy another Velodyne
product without any worries.

Cheers
cmach

Velodyne service is outstanding. So are their subs. No worries. ( not a dealer....just a happy customer)

But seriously folks, I have had an eye on the DD-12 since the beginning of the year.

I own the DD-10 and will be moving up to a pair of DD-12's due to moving to a larger space. The DD-10 is absolutely incredible, and indestructable if used with common sense. By common sense, I mean that ANY sub (even ones with built-in limiters) can be overdriven only so many times before damage occurs. The problem with some of the tiny supersubs like the DD-10 is that new owners like to push them just to get a feel for what they're capable of doing. After shutting itself off 5,6,7 times in a row, don't be surprised if you damage the amp. The reason this happens less with large subs is because pushing THEM to their max is so obnoxiously loud that you'll only wanna do it a couple of times.

If anybody is looking for a good price on the Velo DD's, feel free to email me at theranman@webtv.net. My dealer is awesome!!!

I'd like to revive this thread and steer it in a different direction. I have looked at the DD manual online, but it's not clear to me how you connect these subs into 2-channel music systems (without LFE). Is it similar to REL (run a second set of speaker cables off your amp to the REL), or do you need to run a second pair of ICs from preamp to the DD? Or do you run your speaker cables to the DD first and then on to your main speakers? The REL system seems best to me in that it does not compromise your 2-channel "architecture", but the DD subs are appealing because of their advanced integration and room correction features.

Second question: how do you know if the 10 is enough or if you should go with the 12 or 15? My hope is to find a used one and try it with both my HT setup (2-channel only using GMA Europas, so it would be a sub and not a .1) and in my audio system with Harbeths. The HT is in a small room (10x16, high ceilings), the audio room is larger (17x23, also high ceilings). I realize these are two very different situations, but I'd like to find something that might work decently in both so I can experiement and see if I really want to add a sub to either or both systems. So maybe a 10 or 12 to start with?

Thanks for any help here.