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Loudspeakers that go LOUD?

I recently finished off a basement room that is 24.5' x 22.5' x 8'. My beloved Tyler Linbrook Monitor Signatures sound as wonderful as ever there provided I reign in the volume control somewhat, otherwise the SEAS Excel 7" drivers start to protest. I'd really like to find some speakers that wont give up too much in quality, especially in the areas of treble refinement and in imaging, but will play loud without strain. The few horn systems I've heard sounded peaky in the treble to me, but perhaps there are some which don't. Suggestions will be gratefully received.

Parameters: For music I am into classical, opera, female vocalists like Eva Cassidy and Jennifer Warnes, movie sound tracks, shows, golden oldies, but no heavy rock or metal. Power is via a 50 watt/channel tube amp but that could be changed out. Budget: on the order of up to $3K new or used.
beemerrider
bartokfan
664 posts
 
Lets see Tyler Signature Monitor, thats Ty's MTM design, W18.T25/W18. I have the Seas Thor, same speaker.
Room is 20X30 cathedral ceiling, open to hall ways on all sides, If i play my reference cds, Mississippi Blues, New Orleans Jazz, Can blow the roof off. Put it this way, the neighbors will complain. Amp "40" watt Jadis. As you know the watt thing is relative.
So I agree with the above 2 comments, its not the speakers. However I will concede some beaming at high volume with the seas'.
But the purpose of these drivers were intended to reproduce music with clear, clean, super high resolution= fidelity, with dynamics and separations of the 3 main fq's, bass, mids, highs.
All objectivers are met with excellence.
Now as to playing super loud, it may fall short on that. But not sure if any speaker plays loud and maintains those qualities mentioned.
I mean if you really want loud and keep to those dynamics, buy a Jadis DA60. There objective met and you get to keep your Ty;ers.
I listen at 1/4th- 1/3rd vol and am completely satisfied.
I use to goa friends house and hear music, he'd paly his Audio resaerch VT200 and pre/Mirage 1's, and Talon Khorus LOUD. I couldn't stand it, what suffering.
sean
6,231 posts
 
If you like what you've already got, then keep it. By adding an electronic crossover and a sub ( or subs ), you can get the best of both worlds. You not only take the strain off of both the amp and the speakers by limiting their low frequency bandwidth and the associated power requirements, but will also improve the dynamic range and overall frequency extension of the system. You should be able to do this quite easily for the amount specified. Sean
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acresverde
385 posts
 
Sounds like a recipe for horns to me. 50 watts harnessed to 100db sensitivity should rattle your dentures.
revdeg
32 posts
 
Sounds familiar. I too have a big room and struggled for a solid year with limited volume thinking it was my speakers. It was only after I changed amps from a 60 watt tubed amp to SS monoblocks that the speakers properly loaded the room and their full potential was heard. In my opinon use the money to upgrade the amps- you've got a great pair of speakers.
bartokfan
664 posts
 
I had demo-ed a 40 watt tube amp with my Seas, and couldn't push the dynamics of the speaker. The Seas needs really heavy duty power trans in tube amps with KT90's. Like my JOR. The DA30 would be super!
Remember not all tube amps are built the same.
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