Hi-Fi Lingo and What we should be listening for


I'm writing this because I think that it would be beneficial to have a consensus on what various terms used to describe a systems sound mean. I get the impression that there is confusion, or at least that people use the same term to describe more than one quality.

For example i've seen some components described as "overly detailed", this also seems to have connotations in a lot of people minds of brightness or tilted up trebel. I really think the two are completely separate, and that in fact if your goal is to get the most realistic portrayal of the recorded event it is impossible to have an overly detailed component/presentation. You can only have as much detail as was recorded, if you want to recreate it in a manner that is as close to reality as possible (assuming the recording comes close to the semblance of the actual instrument), then almost by definition you want all the detail that is on the recording. Detail is what it is, it does not imply brightness...although tilted -up trebel often gives the impression of detail careful listening will separate one from the other.

The other term that seems full of connotaion and ambiguity is "musical"...this has got to be the most overused desriptor in our hobby. It has connotations of emotional involvment but strangly also of warmth....again i think this needs clarification...I would think and feel personally that the most musical presentation would be one that sounds the closest to the actual event hence warmth would be a detractor and less musical than nutrality...if it is music we are listening for then how can something other than faithful recreation of the musical event be more musical.

If a recordng is warm then the warmth will show up on a neautral system just as a brightly recorded album will sound bright...as it should...

Im not trying to stir anything up just putting this out there to generate a dialogue.

Why dont audiophiles almost by definition like neutral components...assuming the goal of out hobby is the accurate recreation of the recorded musical event.

Thanks
mbacinello
I think bright is also mistaken for detail, I never hear "bright" sound when I see the Cleveland Orchestra but I hear bunches of detail.
Warmth....I dunno what to think when I hear this term, we simply all dont agree on speakers characters. I suppose to me when a speaker has an outstanding midrange and a tweeter that does not over power the mids, that is a warm speaker.
Musical, I always am aware of my toe tapping, almost every single time this happens I consider it musical but thats just me. When a speaker flows and the music emotion and impact gets my head bobbing, my toes tapping and my face grinning, to me thats "Musical".
Frankly, I hope you ARE stirring things up. There is a lot of "mumbo-jumbo" talk in the audiophile universe. It ain't a scientific discipline - though certainly aspects are amenable to scientific study. To me the whole "hobby" is like wine tasting...budget and experience influence your product choices, expectations and level of enjoyment -not to mention descriptive language. To me, listen a lot, buy what you can afford (stretch a little !), love what you buy. And don't worry if it isn't the ultimate last word on the best system for the $ you spend. Chances are you won't be doing A/B testing after the purchase anyway.
Here ya go. Everything you ever wanted to know about describing what you are hearing...or not hearing.

http://stereophile.com/reference/50/
Montyx - Thanks. A very helpful article. I copied and saved the link to my hard drive. I appreciate your constructive input vs my somewhat cranky rant!
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