Vandersteen 2CE Sigs tweeter too high

Amusing how one can be confident that the designer made "errors" when it comes to tweeter height, tilt back adjustment, dedicated stands providing adjustable tiltback, etc., when Richard Vandersteen has refined this model for over twenty years and the model is recognized as an industry and consumer success. But then what does Vandersteen know?

In response to Stevecham and Davemitchell, and in my defense, here are two direct quotes from the Model 2Ce Signature operation manual: "With all the possible variables in room layout, there are no magical formulas for determining the best speaker placement in every room. Since every room is different, we recommend that you try the speakers in every domestically acceptable location to find where they sound the best in your particular listening environment"(5). And on the next page: "Several factors influence how speakers interface with a room other than the room's basic dimensions . . . "(6). Your responses to mine and Qdrone's postings seem a bit dogmatic--even fundamentalist--to me. Relax. This is supposed to be fun.

It IS fun, hence my sometimes ascerbic view. Believe me I mean this with a bit of humor. Hope you have been able to find the sweet spot with your Vandy 2Ces. For me the best sound is with the spikes all but about a quarter inch showing in the stands. I sit from them about 8 feet and have them aimed straight ahead for the best wide soundstaging. My sofa puts the tweeter at just about ear level when I am semi slouched.

Rosedanny,

All I did was point out the correct way to set them up in terms of tilt and height. Unfortunately, there is only one way to achieve proper time alignment. Sorry if that seems "fundamentalist" to you but that's how it is. No one has discussed where to put them in the room- that's a different issue entirely.

I'm not putting a gun to your head and telling you to listen to me...just trying to offer good advice.

By all means, have fun.

Sorry if I came off defensive. You're right--you did just give advice, and it was good advice, too. I looked again at the chart on tilt in the manual and recalculated distance/listening height/tilt. BINGO! I sit pretty far away from my speakers--12 ft--so I had the tilt initally too high, then when I went flat that wasn't right either. It turns out I needed something in the middle (3/4" distance between the top and the bottom of the speaker). Now the details are back, the accuracy is balanced across the frequencies--YAY, here's what I've been looking for! I remember speaking to Richard Vandersteen on the phone once, and he said one rule overrides all the others: if your ears say it sounds right, it's right. The manual also mentions something about not overanalyzing set up (something I'm definately guilty of)--when it's right, you'll know. Anyway, thanks to you all for you help and feedback--and patience--in this somewhat misguided thread. Danny