Top Ten Tuners of all Time??


To start this thread I vote for the Yamaha T 1. At its price performance,little to touch it period. Whats your vote?
ferrari
The Magnum Dynalab FT101 Etude taught me that Sereophile Recommended Components lists were to be approached with a huge crystal of salt. I bought a Fanfare rated 'A' by Stereophile and was disappointed, so Frank at Audio Outlet sent me the Etude (once rated class C, I believe). A-B comparison from a rooftop antenna through a high end splitter totally eliminated any doubt. It is by far my most used source over the Meridian 508 and, yes the LP12s.
Geor, I posted to this thread back on 10/11/2000 and I mentioned I was just venturing into tuners and ended with giving a "plug" for the Fanfare. In hindsight I am grateful I purchased that tuner as I have greatly enjoyed using a tuner since that time, but the Fanfare came and went; I agree, nothing special. Since that time I have owned a Yamaha T2, modified Pioneer, Kenwood 917 and currently I own a Luxman T-117.
Thanks Brian. General advice to all A'gonners (sic)...read all the posts. I happened upon this thread while researching an amp, but I just had to send a quick note because of my experience. I guess it was a response more to a certain magazine than anything else and a thanks to a hi end retailer in NY named Frank. It's a process that doesn't end until you're happy...I'll just leave that hanging.
The most interesting aspect in having these types of posts is how depending on the popularity of certain tuners, they will immediately experience a boost in their prices. I remember years ago when the founders of the by invitation only AudioMart magazine (the largest used audio magazine in the world at the time) were invited by The Absolute Sound's publisher, Harry Pearson, to write an article on pieces of hi-fi gear which would be considered to be classics in the future.

Virtually every piece of gear that they chose became an instant classic: gear like the Levinson ML-2's, SAE Mk VIB,
Acrosound 20/20, Electro Research A75, Paragon E preamp, Krell KSA 50 etc.

Was it that these pieces of gear were so much better than the myriad others which had competed favorably with them? No. It had far more to do with the respect that TAS readers had for Walt and Lennice, and the fact that their choices were based on very good gear to begin with.

However, much of this equipment has appreciated exponentially, because of enthusiasts' "perceptions" of this gear, more than how good it actually was.

This is not to say that much of the gear chosen was not quite good in its day.

However, most of it is now ancient, and well in need of expensive servicing. Yet, that has not prevented many who've purchased such pieces of gear, from spending a small forture on them, or the subsequent services which the prior owners had managed to avoid.

The lesson here, is that there is quite a bit of excellent gear that has fallen underneath the radar of the would be
classic hi-fi buyer, and as such still remains a bargain.

However, the moment that this gear starts getting "talked up" it will experience a similar rise in price, simply based on the perceptions of those who want a piece of gear that others have acknowledged to be a cut above the rest.

The following are my choices for top 10 top tuners. And I know that there are at least a hundred other tuners which can match or better these, however, it is my perception of these tuners (having even owned some of them), which dictates my suggestions here.

It is certainly nice to be able to dabble in something as enjoyable as used hi-end audio, without actually going broke in the process. Purchasing some lesser known but also popular tuners such as the Dyna FM-3 or Onkyo T 9090 (that while excellent don't have the same cache as
a Day Sequerra or Marantz 10B) will get you sound quality that is nearly on par with the best, yet at a fraction of the cost.

These types of tuners are still considered to be a relative bargain -- especially if their cosmetic condition is less than perfect.

However, the prices of some of this more esoteric used gear have become stratospheric based on buyer's perceptions, meaning that our perceptions oftentimes outweigh our good common sense.

For example, there are the thifty, yet savvy amongst us who can put together a collection of very nice sounding and aesthetically pleasing tuners, for what one enthusiast might spend on a minted out Marantz 10B or Scott 4310.

However, is the person with either (or perhaps both) of the
aforementioned tuners going to enjoy them more than the person who has 8 or 9 more affordable tuners? (Tuners capable of nearly equal sound quality?)

It would all depend on the people involved. However, in most cases, unless the people with the more expensive gear are well heeled, they may find themselves constantly at odds with the large sums of money that they've spent for the more esoteric gear -- especially when considering that it is decades old, and that repairing certain parts which go bad, may turn out to be impossible, simply because the parts are no longer available.

However, with the less expensive tuners, if they experience a similar failure, there's far less invested them, so the losses will be on a much smaller scale.

Once again, it all comes down to our perceptions of these pieces of gear -- which in essence all serve the same primary function -- that of listening -- and the secondary function of being aesetically pleasing.

Or is it the other way around?

Once again, that's a matter of perception too.

Marantz 10B
Scott 4310
Sequerra FM Reference
McIntosh MR71 Modafferi modded
Revox B 760
Revox B 261
Tandberg 3001A
Marantz 125
Naim NAT-01
Leak Troughline 2 w/Internal or external stereo decoder
I just purchased a Tandberg 3011A and think it's a great piece of gear. It's beautifully built and has a lush midrange reminscent of a well designed tube tuner.

I've been comparing it to my also recently acquired Revox B 261, as well as a Marantz 125 that I have had for some time, and find that it compares favorably with both. All are well designed and built quite well -- the Revox in particular is an absolute tank worthy of the "built like a Swiss watch" moniker.

Of course, my bargain of the Century tuner -- an NAD 402 with original box and manual for $58 -- also stands up well against this considerably more expensive competition. Then again the 402 was raved about by the British audio press back in the early 1990's for its impressive spec's and clean design.

As for the Onix BWD-1, I have never owned one, but have read many positive reviews in regard to it and look forward to acquiring one somewhere down the road.

As for the 3011A, they usually sell for between $225 and $450 depending on condition. The only problem that a number of people have mentioned is that the 8 presets for the tuner stations go bad after a time and need to be replaced. Unless that is, you don't care about having them fixed, since they don't appear to harm the manual tuning or sound of the 3011A in anyway.

The touch of the tuning nob on the 3011A bespeaks the quality of manufacturing that the Swedes are known for -- a heft and precision usually only found on very expensive gear.

JimmyBlues