Victor TT 101 vs TT 81


I am aware of some of the differences regarding the motors of these two units, but I was wondering if anyone had insights as to the differences in sound (if any) and the differences in reliability (I'm guessing the 81 being simpler might be more reliable, however, it seems to have the better motor).  Any info will be appreciated.
rgs
Are there any parts you think are particularly important to acquire as spares?
I think for both the TT-81 and TT-101, every part (including chips) is available (just Google the part No.).
There is just one special power chip which is scarce and Lewm has snaffled up a bag-load of these, one of which he has kindly sent to Thuchan who needs it to complete his rebuild of a TT-101 I found him.
Will be interesting to see if he ever gets it going...👅
Halcro, besides the aesthetics, was there any value in removing the "base" from the turntable? BTW, I like the design of your arm pillars. Any reason you decided to go with your own design as opposed to using the steel column "legs with spikes" sometimes seen in Japanese auctions sites?
I didn't get a base with either of my Victors rgs.....just the motor units.
And I wanted the freedom of mounting ANY arm of ANY length and ANY design.....so I think separate arm-pods are the best way to achieve this.
I looked into buying existing arm-pods but their weight, height, design and cost were all inappropriate (most vintage arms have their wiring exiting their bases whilst most modern arms have their wiring exiting from above).
There are also arms with VTA adjustment devices which need to be accommodated under their arms so I designed my solid bronze pods to accomodate all the vintage and modern arms I could know about.
http://i.imgur.com/e3JxLkl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/WU5k38M.jpg

I always use a solid base because I like to be able to lock the tonearm to the chassis the motor is in, that's me and probably means nothing.  Besides, I new I was using my 12" 3D arm so it became a moot point to have arm changing capabilities, I just swap armtubes.

If I new how to post a picture I would do it, it really looks great.

HW



hwsworkshop
I always use a solid base because I like to be able to lock the tonearm to the chassis the motor is in, that's me and probably means nothing.

well my ears tell me it means a quite a bit  .... :^)

@hwsworkshop

Have you ever heard one of your tonearms in this fashion ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSZSzxnN1mg

some fun many years ago now...
Henry, et al.  I thought you told us long ago that the motor of the TT81, while it may or may not be absolutely identical to that of the TT101, is also coreless.  (I made a claim that it was not, which prompted you or someone else to post a brochure on the TT81 that seemed indeed to say it had a coreless motor.) In your initial post on this thread, I am unsure what you are saying vis a vis the TT81, coreless or not coreless?  I do tend to like coreless motors, too, based on the performance of my L07D, as compared to my other DD turntables using multi-pole motors. Heretofore, I thought the major difference between the two is that the TT101 has a bi-directional servo, can correct speed if either too fast or too slow, whereas the TT81 servo is only reading "too slow".

A question, if not a plea, to HWS:  Have you got "a guy" who can work on my TT101?  I'd love to get it up and running, and I have a pretty good idea where the problem lies, just not the knowledge to identify it specifically and fix it.  So far as I know, it does not need a new master chip, but I do have a few spares of those, if that were to be the case.  Like Halcro says, I gave a spare chip to another frustrated TT101 owner in Germany, still waiting for his results.