When rap came out 30 years ago I thought it was just a fad

Yup, Kurtis Blow was the man!  There is a movie called "Krush Groove" Stars Run-DMC, LL Cool J, Fat Boys, Beastie Boys, Kurtis Blow. Shiela E., New Edition. It shows some of the early years of Rap. Russell Simmons and Rick Rubin started Def Jam. Gives you a lot of history of the genre and how they overcame the people who hated it. There is a great song called "King Of Rock" by Run DMC. It has some great guitar riffs in it. I still know the song word for word 30 years later.

my old friend told that the word rap is actually misspelled...

tostadosunidos,
I have taken absolutely no position on whether rap is music or not therefore I feel no need to prove anything either way. If you feel that rap is not music that’s your prerogative. I really don’t care.

As far as me playing "the race card" I only stated my opinion that some posts in this thread are, to me, not so subtly racist. The posts in question mostly involve those who write and perform rap and those who enjoy it.

Rap has been around a long time so why all the angst now? Sorry but I just don’t see it as an indicator or cause of the decline of western civilization. I would be loath to attribute that much power to any form of music or non-music.

BTW: I never personally accused you of anything.

Synthfreek,

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rja, what you said was:

There's very real cultural/racial bias in this thread.
1. Rap is not music.

Are you not saying that I am culturally/racially biased for saying rap is not music?  If not, what are you saying?

BTW, I said it was another form of art but simply didn't meet my criteria for being considered music.  That in and of itself is not a knock.  Actually, I feel partly the same about opera, which contains a lot of which is undeniably music (and a lot of it is undeniably great music), but as I said earlier:  opera is people singing when they should be talking and rap is people talking when they should be singing.  Don't take that too seriously, it's a pointed joke.

Anyway, if you weren't saying that to say rap is not music carries a cultural/racial bias, what were you saying?