Primaluna Dialogue Premium or Premium HP?

Thank you, Kevin for your input!  I also agree that the Dialogue One I had was a great piece!  I enjoyed it for several years, and decided early on that if I were to upgrade, it would be along the Primaluna path.  I do feel the HP is an improvement in all ways.  I have recently added a pair of Cifte 12AU7s to the input signal path, and this seems to be a match made in heaven.  Even though they aren't yet broken in, we noticed they seem to have the clarity of the Clear Tops with the smooth range of the stock tubes and the bass I was really looking for.  Even the GF said that while she thought it was really good all along, it still seems to get better and better.  To me, that's a truly great testimonial.  

I'm very happy with it, and plan to keep it for many years to come!

I am very close to purchasing a 
Primaluna Dialogue Premium Intergrated amp, but my only hesitation is if it would output enough power for my Martin Logan Adavntage speakers. Does anyone have this combo? Is the 36 watts enough power for electrostats?

Thanks,

Matt00-Give Kevin@Upscale Audio a call, he's the authority on the PL line.

My guess is yes, as I've heard ML's driven by PL gear.

Hello There.
Has anyone tried Primaluna Dialogue HP with KT150 tubes. Is it better than kt120 or mentioned kt 88 Gold Lion?
Now i have Audio Physic Virgo V and wondering if PL Dialogue HP can run those speakers ?
I am also thinking about new speakers, custom based 3 way on scan speak illuminator which may be even more demanding  from amp.
Best Regards from Poland

Definitely go with KT150s. I went from 88s to 120s and while that was a great improvement, I had some of the artifacts mentioned in previous posts about the 120s (it’s been awhile so I don’t remember exactly what I didn’t 100% love about them, even though they were a good upgrade from the 88s). About 6 months later I had read all the write-ups on 150s, and while 8 of them is an expensive upgrade-gamble, it was totally worth it. Noticeable right off the bat, and with some burn in even better. A much bigger jump than from 88s to 120s. I would always have 150s in a component that could take them (until they make 175s or whatever!).

If you’re PL can take 150s and you don’t mind leaving the cage off (it doesn’t fit any longer), I haven’t read a single post anywhere where someone upgraded and regretted it.

Just for clarity’s sake, I own super efficient Zu Soul Supreme speakers (the combo is killer), so the 150 upgrade for me was NOT about power increase but to get better bass and top end (which they gave me in spades).

Also, if you’re debating HP or not (vs. the "normal" Dialogue Premium), the headphone amp is truly outstanding as mentioned. I have HiFIMan HE1000s and it drives them superbly--probably as well or better than the $4200 McIntosh HP amp I also own (because of the rave reviews with the HE1000s). I love the McIntosh, but it’s not better and I’m probably going to move that whole rig to another system to simplify my main listening rig.