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klipschorns, they kick ass for sure

hello folks.   for those out there that think the big klipschorn's are not good enough to be a high end quality speaker, guess what??   your wrong!!   I have been in audio for over 40 years. I have heard many speaker systems over the years. I have very good speakers now in my home. I have good equipment running them.  I picked up a pair of k-horns last week.  1986 model year.  replaced the crossovers with crites xovers.  one tweeter blown.  replaced both with ct120 tweeters from crites. hooked them up to my parasound  3500 amp ( yes, way overkill  )  but I wasent in the mood to move it.  speakers placed where they are supposed to be in the corners of the room.  well let me tell you all it took was 2 minutes to decide these things are the bomb.  I dident hear any of the stuff I been reading about over the last 30 years how these speakers are harsh, no good bass and everything else everybody says about them.  as far as im concerned they are clean, clear, crisp, and loud. did I say loud.  volume starts a 7 o'clock,  at 9 o'clock  your ears start to bleed.  I guess the 350 watts into a speaker that only needs 20 will do that.  and all the stuff I hear about  ss amps these speakers don't like.  only 30 watt tube amps will do or you will hear all kinds of noise.  well, all I can say is bull crap to that.  what I here is a speaker sounding better then just about anything else I ever heard.  I played rock,jazz,classical,  all passed with flying color's. all I can say is you guys out there that think they suck. have your ears cleaned out and go listen again.  yes, the 350 watt power house is going to go before I blow everything up. 
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phusis
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Klipsch could be a whole lot better, a whole lot. To say that they are ’crisp’ is an understatement. Klipsch uses very mediocre drivers. Crisp is a good way to describe that tweeter.....Lol. I wonder if anyone who likes Klipsch has ever heard a great compression driver? Most likely not. This is not an insult, simply an invitation to remain open minded. Upgrading the components that create the sound, is the key to making them a truly good speaker. But, those that really love Klipsch think that is sacrilege.

Simon Mears does exactly that, turn the Belle Klipsch into a much better speaker:

http://simonmearsaudio.com/uccello-horn-loudspeakers.html

Everything about them has been bettered; the cabinets (both frame and finish), cross-overs, cables, binding posts, drivers and horns. Not least: the implementation of all parts, and the care that went into making these speakers. The driver of the bass horn (and the folded bass horn itself) is the one that most closely resembles its origin (i.e.: the pre '85 K33E square magnet unit).

Perhaps you could say Mr. Mears of the UK does with the Uccello’s from the Belle what Greg Roberts does with the Volti Audio Vittora’s in the US of the La Scala’s. Haven’t heard the latter, but I own the former, and they are truly wonderful speakers.
missioncoonery
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Mish. Don't ride on the coat-tails of another poster you think agrees with you. You buried yourself (as you usually do) in this thread a long time ago by telling the OP Klipsch sucks, and that his writing is foolish. You really didn't have anything constructive to give the OP. Don't believe me, just re-read your posts to this OP


  He didn't agree with me, tool..I agree with him!


 And you added anything meaningful?,lol...You and your cohorts are defending the original poster who admitted he replaced tweeters and crossovers,Why ?Well I assume to try to make them sound good. So telling us this and then saying that the Khorn rule is actually mute at best as he doesn't even have original Khorns anymore..The EV t35/k77 tweeter is about the crappiest sound tweeter ever made,period.They can be bought for peanuts and if comparing them in vintage circles to say the Jensen 302 or even the JBL 075,well I rest my case..The 55 driver is not much better..and having heard the 15" that goes into khorns,what is it another by product from Electro voice...come on now..Anybody that disagrees on this site to foolish postings gets piled on,hence no one actually speaks up and says BS

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henrycai
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Missioncoonery,

Why Don't You Get a LIFE.
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henrycai
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We Both Know Why, Don't We.
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phusis
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..and having heard the 15" that goes into khorns,what is it another by product from Electro voice...come on now..

missioncoonery --

Don’t go throw out the baby with the bath water. Please elaborate on your "having heard the 15 inch" in question - I’d wager there are many other things than the bass driver itself you’ve heard, thereby blurring your ability to distinguish its actual imprinting in the proper implementation. The 15" EV unit is a fine driver, and one tailored to a specific use (i.e.: in folded horns). The current "ersatz" cast unit from Crites is said to improve on the original EV ditto, while maintaining the TS data crucial for its intended use. A Vitavox AK151/152 is no doubt a more appealing driver going by looks, magnet type and weight (at a vastly substantial price!), as is the like from GPA with their, say, 515 driver - all of which are meant for bass/lower mids (folded) horn use. But are they essentially better than their cheaper alternative? The Vítavox driver I would gather, yes, but to what degree? All of these drivers do not sport lavish specs with 4" voice coils, insane magnet sizes and 1000+ watts RMS - for a reason. In fact it would be counter productive.

I’d say your all-out riling against Klipsch here loses some sight of itself..
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