Tonearm mount on the plinth or on Pillar ?


Folks,
I am looking to buy a custom built turntable from Torqueo Audio (http://www.torqueo-audio.it/). They have two models, one with a wide base plinth where the tonearm would be mounted on the plinth (as usual) and the second is a compact plinth where they provide a seperate tonearm pillar to mount the tonearm. According to them the separate tonearm pillar version sounds more transparent and quieter because of the isolation of the tonearm from the TT. My concern is whether seperating the tonearm from the plinth would result in a lesser coherence in sound ? Isnt sharing the same platform results in a more well-timed, coherent presentation ? Any opinions ?
pani

Pani,

I was about to start a pod style build and now find this thread particularly frustrating with lack of any hard information. What was this pod that Atmasphere used and how is this motor noise relevant?  We assume, but don't really know if the separate pod was even used on the same isolation platform.

**According to them the separate tonearm pillar version sounds more transparent and quieter because of the isolation of the tonearm from the TT. My concern is whether seperating the tonearm from the plinth would result in a lesser coherence in sound ? Isnt sharing the same platform results in a more well-timed, coherent presentation ?**

Timing and coherence were not addressed. Perhaps other people who use or have used both styles of arm mounts could comment.  I suspect results vary greatly with individual application. Apparently the people making and selling the table you're considering think it sounds quieter and more transparent with a separate arm mount. Their conclusion about quieter does not conform to Atmasphere's rules. Think it's just a sales pitch to sell separate arms/pods and more expensive set ups ? 

With lack of evidence to the contrary, I would take their statement at face value. Maybe you should get in touch with them and ask them to elaborate about these differences with these tables and its significance.

Regards,

 

Pani,
Perhaps you should take note of an audio designer who actually designs and sells tonearms and turntables.....
Someone like Frank Kuzma who makes the 4 Point and Airline tonearms and whose top-of-the-line turntable uses a separate armpod.
I’d be hesitant in calling Frank a fool....

Dear @atmasphere :  """  Actually this is not true. """

You are totally wrong because I'm asking for normal day by day listening enviroment in real home audio systems, I don't care about lathe or about your self targets. YOUR TARGETS ARE NOT THE AUDIOPHILE TARGETS. GOT IT?

"""  As previously mentioned, I have explained this twice already in this thread. I suggest you re-read my initial posts """

YOU EXPLAINED NOTHING WE AUDIOPHILES WNAT IT TO KNOW, so useless.

If you want the right questions to you then comeback with the " overall solution " that can gives us what we want to know not what you want to know or what you want to support, you are biased to your soluition/targets that are diferent from what we want to know.

Enough, you are in a way different " tv chanel ".


Regards and enjoy the music,
R.



Dear @pani : """   who think like me including an audio designer... """

well, with all respect to him and you he is not a regarded TT/tonearm designer and for his posts neither an audiophile.

Please read the @halcro last post.

Btw, good that you was decided to know what to buy before you posted this thread. Tell us how good performs when received because looks very good.

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.
Pani,
Perhaps you should take note of an audio designer who actually designs and sells tonearms and turntables.....
Someone like Frank Kuzma who makes the 4 Point and Airline tonearms and whose top-of-the-line turntable uses a separate armpod.
I’d be hesitant in calling Frank a fool....
I am not challenging anyone’s hearing or designing capabilities. I am only saying that if I have to buy blind I will buy an integrated system rather than separates.