Tonearm mount on the plinth or on Pillar ?

Pani,
Perhaps you should take note of an audio designer who actually designs and sells tonearms and turntables.....
Someone like Frank Kuzma who makes the 4 Point and Airline tonearms and whose top-of-the-line turntable uses a separate armpod.
I’d be hesitant in calling Frank a fool....

Dear @atmasphere :  """  Actually this is not true. """

You are totally wrong because I'm asking for normal day by day listening enviroment in real home audio systems, I don't care about lathe or about your self targets. YOUR TARGETS ARE NOT THE AUDIOPHILE TARGETS. GOT IT?

"""  As previously mentioned, I have explained this twice already in this thread. I suggest you re-read my initial posts """

YOU EXPLAINED NOTHING WE AUDIOPHILES WNAT IT TO KNOW, so useless.

If you want the right questions to you then comeback with the " overall solution " that can gives us what we want to know not what you want to know or what you want to support, you are biased to your soluition/targets that are diferent from what we want to know.

Enough, you are in a way different " tv chanel ".


Regards and enjoy the music,
R.

Dear @pani : """   who think like me including an audio designer... """

well, with all respect to him and you he is not a regarded TT/tonearm designer and for his posts neither an audiophile.

Please read the @halcro last post.

Btw, good that you was decided to know what to buy before you posted this thread. Tell us how good performs when received because looks very good.

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.

Pani,
Perhaps you should take note of an audio designer who actually designs and sells tonearms and turntables.....
Someone like Frank Kuzma who makes the 4 Point and Airline tonearms and whose top-of-the-line turntable uses a separate armpod.
I’d be hesitant in calling Frank a fool....

I am not challenging anyone’s hearing or designing capabilities. I am only saying that if I have to buy blind I will buy an integrated system rather than separates.

You apparently believe that all separate arm pillars are the same regardless of size, weight, construction, density and supports.
The only reason an arm pillar can

move in different planes and rates

is if it is inadequate.

They all have one thing in common: they relay on the surface on which they rest. If this surface has any motion that allows the pillar to move in a different plane than the bearing of the platter, it makes no difference how well the pillar is constructed. Its a basic engineering flaw. I have explained this before.

What was this pod that Atmasphere used and how is this motor noise relevant?

We are not talking about motor noise here! Please re-read my first two posts- I am wondering though if I need to clarify in some way due to the obvious misunderstandings I have encountered!

You are totally wrong because I'm asking for normal day by day listening enviroment in real home audio systems, I don't care about lathe or about your self targets. YOUR TARGETS ARE NOT THE AUDIOPHILE TARGETS. GOT IT?

Oh I got it alright. What you don't seem to understand is that the lathe is an extremely high quality turntable- one with a massive platter, massive plinth, extreme platform and powerful drive. But a turntable nontheless, and one that stands up to any turntable made today. You could easily use it for playback only. So you are incorrect- my targets are the audiophile targets. You need to understand this, but right now I am thinking that you have an monetary investment that prevents you from doing so.

well, with all respect to him and you he is not a regarded TT/tonearm designer and for his posts neither an audiophile.

Actually this statement is false as well. It might interest you to know that Tri Mai of Triplanar was an employee of mine years ago. Further, we've been selling a turntable for about 15 years. It started as a modified Empire 208. Its expanded beyond that now and the result is we have a copycat who was a customer of ours and the price of used Empire 208s has skyrocketed on our account. That sort of influence does suggest some regard. I'm also an audiophile- that's why I do these things. Please try to stick to the facts rather than creating hearsay.

What I have been discussing here is a pretty basic engineering principle. It is not hard to understand at all. Anyone with a mechanical engineering background will agree with me instantly. I suspect those that don't have a monetary investment that forces them to resist, but this would be like resisting Ohm's Law, if you will pardon the expression.