What's in your CDP tonight? the minority report

ghost, you can find the video on youtube  (also a duel with elvin jones)--let me know if i've exaggerated. btw, i like ginger baker alot, but he's no blakey or elvin jones.

Hey Loomis...I will look for the video. I like Ginger as a rock drummer a ton and though I know he (and Jack) came out of jazz backgrounds I don’t know enough to say how good a jazz drummer he was. I watched a concert (on YouTube) of him with Charlie Haden and (Bill Frissell?) on guitar. Pretty straight up jazz. He seemed okay to me - certainly not overplaying in that context but there’s more to it than that. Glad to hear you like Ginger too...means your assessment vis a vis Art B. is more likely to be an accurate one (no axe to grind).

Starting to look for that video you mention, came across this discussion on the Steve Hoffman forum. Makes for some interesting reading re what Elvin Jones thought about Ginger (vs Keith Moon of all people!).
http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/elvin-jones-feelings-about-ginger-bakers-playing-style.238445/

Sure, Bonham, Moon & Baker were the "trinity" of rock drummers in my day but I’d put Baker (way) ahead of either of them. Leastways, that’s my O-pinion. Again, not talking Baker's jazz talent.

Loomis - might this be the one you were referring to?

"Art Blakey & Ginger Baker:  "Drum Battle" (1972)

http://artblakey.com/battles/

that's the one--there's also a jones/baker battle (just type in ginger baker elvin jones on the youtube site). let us know what you think...

Dizzy Gilliespie