gh, thanks for checking it out. i don't really disagree with your analysis--my own sense (not being a drummer either) was that baker tends to default to that same sorta tribal/african rhythm while blakey shows a much wider dynamic range and in general, seemed to have supreme mastery--i.e. he shifts from cool to frenzied in a heartbeat. i was probably being unfair to baker earlier--he's still a great rock drummer--but since he's generally regarded as the spawn of satan i won't apologize in person.
What's in your CDP tonight? the minority report
I enjoy vinyl and digital (lately, with recent changes, vinyl actually sounds better than digital to me), BUT given what seems an overall preference for analog/vinyl on A'gon, I'm curious what the non-vinyl "1/2" is listening to. I tried to see if this was a previously posted question. Did not seem so.
This evening for me, it's Genesis (definitive edition remaster) "A Trick of the Tail".
This evening for me, it's Genesis (definitive edition remaster) "A Trick of the Tail".
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Loomis - I enjoy reading other viewpoints...especially articulate, well-presented ones like yours, that don't take on a condescending, pissy tone (yours don't). "baker tends to default to that same sorta tribal/african rhythm"...I think I agree with you on this. It's like a trademark or something of his and what I was getting at when I said "repetitious". Have to say I give points to Blakey for having stayed (and, I assume, made his fortune) in jazz...rather than bailing to pursue (easier?) commercial success in rock. What would be really great in those videos is have some knowledgeable commentator break it all down...e.g., from 0:52-0:75 Art is using this and this to do that and that. He's playing in double X time until 0:67 when he changes to XYZ, etc., etc.. Not a critique so much as a musical analysis. Spawn of satan...hmm. Certainly a wee bit of a misanthrope! He and Jack could make the sparks fly. OK. Later. |
Loomis--- John Wicks, The Records frontman/singer/songwriter (though drummer Will Birch also contributed songs) lives in L.A. now, and has recently survived a bout with cancer. There have been some benefit shows to raise money to help with his medical bills, organized by Vicki Peterson of The Bangles. So far, so good. I played briefly with John in the late 90’s/early 00’s, accompanying him on semi-acoustic shows around town. He gave his high-paying gigs to Blondie drummer Clem Burke! For some reason Buddy Rich didn’t care for Ginger. There was a drum "battle" between Ginger and Art Blakely organized, and Buddy was quoted as saying something to the effect of Art would prove Ginger to be the clown he was. But then Buddy didn’t like many other drummers, especially ones successful in Rock music. I consider Ginger a Jazz drummer, not a Rock one. |
by all accounts, no one cared for ginger baker--he seems to have been exiled from several continents. if you haven't already, check out his documentary on netflix, beware of mr. baker, which is a real hoot. bdp, must have been quite an experience to play with john wicks--his was a songcraft which you rarely see anymore (maybe teenage fanclub and matthew sweet). i do find the lyrics of "teenarama" deeply disturbing, however. speaking of sociopaths and songcraft, i was just listening to "hold on to me" by courtney love. it's always irksome when horrible people are blessed with some form of genius, but this is a fantastic song off the much-maligned america's sweetheart. |
In keeping with the Ginger Baker theme, I listened to Masters of Reality featuring Ginger Baker. Amazing performance as usual. https://youtu.be/VL5IcnD9gqo https://youtu.be/beyj3BE7RPY N |
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