Feedback on Ayre and Aesthetix with Vandersteen 5As


Hello,

I am looking to upgrade my two channel system. This will also be part of home theater setup. (75% two channel listening vs 25% movies). Currently I am running Vandersteen 5a (non-carbon) with a Bryston amp (9bsst) and Marantz preamp (8801).  I have narrowed it down to two brands, Aesthetix - Atlas & Calypso or Ayre-  KX-5 twenty & VX-5 twenty. I do not have a local dealer for these brands but I was able to listen to both while out of town hooked up to the Vandersteen 5a carbons. They both sounded amazing. I felt the Aesthetix had a warmer laid back sound and the Ayre had a more revealing, forward sound. I am looking for some feedback on your experiences with these brands or things I should be thinking about. Both retail for around the same cost but I am able to get Aesthetix combo for less. My listening preferences are all over the board from classic rock (Pink Floyd, CSN, Elton John) to jazz and classical/acoustic music.

Thanks
Rob
robertkat
Charles, I too love both.  Personally, when I can find a SS device that sounds as good or better than tube gear I"m going with SS.  Tube gear is a bear to maintain.  I've had it all my life and the only product I have problems with in my system is the Rhea.  At the moment, I have a bad tube and I'm trying to find out which one.  These were new tubes as the unit came back from needing the power supply fixed along with some other 'refresh' items (Sent back to Aesthetix).  The company was and is great.  They want to fix this situation, but it just reminded me why I don't like to own tubes. I went with it because it sounded GREAT, but the PRICE was less than a few other's I was listening to and liked as much or a bit more.  I totally regret this move as I went with my wallet and against my own head IRT buying fully tubed gear.  I'm more concerned when it's power tubes as even those that are automatically biased can never sound the same once the power tubes start to get older and more used.  It get's much more expensive to retube everything so in a few years you are paying more for the amps.  This is just my humble opinion.  When playing at this level you can't make decisions based solely on dollars if you can afford not to.  Johnny is a great sounding board to walk him through this as he knows what questions to ask of folks to lead them to the right decision, but they have to listen to his answers too, lol. Two way street I guess.  That's why so many of us have worked and continue to work with him.  Again, JMHO
Hello ctsooner,

Believe me I understand your argument for SS rather than tubes particularly in regard to power amplifiers. It has been made multiple times. You have found obvious satisfaction with your SS Ayre and that's good for you.  Hasn't worked out that way for me, no SS amp thus far sounds like my SET amp. Horses for courses as is often said.

In the case of the OP he's interested in the Aesthetix  Atlas which has a bipolar driver and output stage (tube input stage ) so essentially this is a SS output stage amplifier. He found it equal to the Ayre (both amazing he said). So he may as well get the lesser cost option in this case. Granted his preamp would be tubed but those small signal tubes are pretty much low maintenance . It seems by his initial post that he'd be thrilled will either brand of amplifier.
Charles,
Excellent discussion guys. I like SS for both electric guitar and bass.
Otherwise, tubes are good choices. Be sure to mention your cabling.
I'm using my 5A's with Ayre....no complaints.  I would heed Audio Connection's recommendations...he's never steered me wrong.....however......I have just installed ClearAudio double shotgun bi-wire speaker cables and was shocked at the presentation.. so good.  I know John at the Connection doesn't like silver, but....

Everything sounds different in different setups...the NY Philharmonic sounds different in Avery Fischer Hall and Carnegie Hall.  The audience smiles in both places.
Thanks for the feedback. I did go to Audio Connection to listen to both systems. I do have some concerns about the maintenance factor with tube gear.