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Jazz for aficionados

Jazz for aficionados

I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.

Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.

The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".

"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.

While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.

Enjoy the music.
orpheus10
frogman
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O-10, I take no pleasure from having to preface my comments like this. Given the history of ridiculous arguing and nonsense, I will stay clear of any request for dialogue that, in any way, smacks of sarcasm or baiting. As always, I welcome reasonable and (hopefully) intelligent dialogue and exchange of ideas. So, if there’s any chance that this feeling is mutual, all I can say is: try again.

In the meantime, a good place to start would be for you to get the personell on the "Forest Flower" that you posted correct. The personell that you posted are incorrect and from a different record. The personell, which could not be more obvious nor easier to identify, are: Hamilton, the composer himself Charles Lloyd, Gabor Szabo, and Albert Stinson. Lloyd could not sound more different from Buddy Collette, nor Szabo more different from Hall. Cello?!?! As far my thoughts on the music go, try again if you would like.
frogman
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jazzmusician and Acman3, thanks for the Glasper clips.  Great drumming all around.  Marc Colenberg is ridiculous; drum machine with a feel!  I have to say, I'm not sure about Glasper yet; had not heard any of his stuff previously so need to hear more. I like his stuff CONCEPTUALLY; just not sure about his playing yet.  Impressive in some ways; but......don't know what it is yet.  Need to hear more.  Thanks again.
orpheus10 OP
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Frogman, if you took no pleasure in prefacing your comment the way you did, then why did you preface it that way?

I merely asked you to compare the drumming, you Frogman are the one who delights in this antagonistic dialog, because if you didn't, you would not start it, for example; this is the way you responded to Rok,s very reasonable statement.

"Sorry, way off base. If you care to have reasonable and intelligent
dialogue about this subject let me know."

And when I presented solid proof that you were wrong about Rok's statement, you never even responded, do you expect me to overlook that? I'm sure Rok is still waiting for a response, I know I am.

In case you have forgotten, this was Rok's statement:


****I think it’s possible, in the middle of playing improvised music, to play a few notes that have been played before in the same order in another popular tune. Intention would depend on the length of the passage played. A few notes might be an unintentional, subconscious ’quote’, too many notes, and you are playing Mona Lisa.****

Rok's very reasoned statement was presented in concrete form in regard to Charlie Parker's tune, "Now's The Time" and "Doing the Hucklebuck". I'll give you the opportunity of ignoring it again. Below is Bird's tune.


            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryNtmkfeJk4


Now we have "Doing The Hucklebuck";



        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X9lOWg7fNM


This time it's done by Frank Sinatra; maybe that will help you to respond.

I get a kick out of your responses that say; "I can do it to you, but you can't do it to me"; wanna bet.




Enjoy the music.


 


orpheus10 OP
8,668 posts
 

Frogman, if you are going to correct someone, you had better get your facts straight; especially if that someone is "Orpheus".

The "Forest Flower" I presented was the one with "The Chico Hamilton Quintet"; a photograph of the players is on the cover of the album: Chico Hamilton is striding across the cover, and Buddy Collette is kneeling with his horns in front of him, while Jim Hall, has his guitar on his knee; that's just the top row of photographs, the rest of the players are in the second row.

   
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF_Kwdmg1Cg



Here it is again, for your pleasure; this time, check the photo's on the album cover.




Enjoy the music.

frogman
7,561 posts
 
That is incorrect: the recording that plays when you play the YouTube link that you provided is from a different recording than shown by that album cover. This was a mistake by the poster of that link; and you.  That album cover is for a recording titled "Spectacular" Featuring Buddy Collette. "Forest Flower" doesn’t even appear on that record. Most importantly, two seconds in and one can tell that it’s not Buddy Collette playing, but Lloyd instead.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chico_Hamilton_Quintet_featuring_Buddy_Collette

The recording in that YouTube link that you provided (with the wrong album cover) is from a recording titled "Man From Two Worlds".

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_from_Two_Worlds

Can we stop now, O-10?
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