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Why will no other turntable beat the EMT 927?

Having owned many good turntables in my audiophile life I am still wondering why not one of the modern designs of the last 20 years is able to beat the sound qualities of an EMT 927.
New designs may offer some advantages like multiple armboards, more than one motor or additional vibration measurements etc. but regarding the sound quality the EMT is unbeatable!
What is the real reason behind this as the machine is nearly 60 years old, including the pre-versions like the R-80?
thuchan
normansizemore
601 posts
 
Sonicbeauty,
If you've read even some of these post you will find that it's not just one set of ears, or one room, or one cartridge. 
Many here agree with Thuchans thoughts on the  EMT. Those that haven't heard one for themselves can take comfort in knowing that Thuchans listening room is built from the ground up as a 'no compromise' listening room using only the finest in electronics and source material. He also has a stellar collection of high end turntables and tonearms a that are considerably more expensive than the cost of his EMT and provide him with a platform to give an 'unbiased' assements of the turntables strengths. 

Most of us don't have this type of room or equipment to properly make such a comparison.

In fact most professional audio reviews don't either.  

Norman
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nandric
4,086 posts
 

The statement '' ...no other TT will...'' is obviously provocative

but make no logical sense. ''no other'' is equivalent to ''all''.

If the ''all quantor'' is used without restriction we get ''set theoretic

paradoxes'' . Besides how is it possible to judge any TT made in

the future? The unknow TT's are impossible to compare with the

existing kinds. What Thuchan should state is: ''there is no other

TT in my experience which is equal to my EMT''. But this is a

totaly different stetement.

normansizemore
601 posts
 
nandric,

That's taken completely out of context.  The question was "Why will no other turntable beat the EMT 927?"  So, it's a question, not a statement.

Logically then, we can easily conclude that it is a question he is personally pondering given his own experiences. 

So, given that Thuchan posed a question and did not make a statement your "all quantor" and "set theoretic paradoxes" leaves through the window.

Furthermore, no ever said anything in this post from my recollection about the EMT besting any and all future turntables.



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cleeds
5,960 posts
 
normansizemore07-06-2016 10:04am" ... The question was "Why will no other turntable beat the EMT 927?"  So, it's a question, not a statement."

It's both statement and question, because the question is based on the premise that "no other turntable" can best the EMT. It commits the logical fallacy of "begging the question," which is the use of a circular argument.
sonicbeauty
324 posts
 
Normansizemore:

I appreciate your post, however your blanket comment "using only the finest in electronics and source material", please, this belongs to the museum of past over-used statements used in our hobby.

By the way, through my business dealings and clients (many are friends), I do have access to a 1million+$ listening room (no kidding).

I just find those "challenges" about gear hype is so useless and so subjective.

PS:
And I stand behind my "one set of ears" comment. As the original post is one's experience.
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