Jazz for aficionados

Eloquently and beautifully stated.

Rok, your comments surprise me given your deep appreciation for music and musicians.

****Ask the average working person in this country****

****Many / most people, work all their lives perfecting or improving their craft. Not just musicians.****

All bias aside, professional musicians are not average working persons, and most "working persons" don't even have a craft; never mind spending their lives perfecting and improving what they do for work. That has not been my experience. Of course there are many walks of life besides music that involve a craft and many of those craftsmen do spend their lives perfecting and improving their craft. The successful ones often make much more than $100,000.

****Doctors are immeasurably more important to a society than bassoon players. A ludicrous comparison.****

That's a matter of opinion as already pointed out. And while I would have chosen viola or banjo (sorry, couldn't resist) instead, most successful doctors make far more than $100,000, so I don't understand your objection to the comparison.

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Q: How can one tell if the floor of the concert hall stage is level?
A: The violist is drooling out of both sides of his mouth.

:-):-):-)

Just so, Frog, not to mention a good bassoonist is much harder to find than a competent Doc.

Lord, Lord, my burden is heavy.

*****Eloquently and beautifully stated*****
comments like this just encourage him.

I never said they didn't deserve 102k, I said it was a lot of money. It still is. His rant didn't change that. I think most musicians never make what they are worth. I even think Wynton is under paid at lincoln Center.

Did not mean to trash the Minnesota Orchestra. Have a few of their CDs. LvB's 9th in SACD is a favorite. At least they record, which is more than can be said of most American Groups.

I have real empathy for all the Jazz / Blues / Pop and R&B people that never got the financial or public acclaim they derserved. But plenty of others got filthy rich off of their talents and efforts. It's actually a National shame.

Having said all that, there are plenty of professions more essential to modern society than musicians. They, musicians, can be replaced by computers!! hahahahhah not The Frogman or Learsfool of course.

Teachers, Cops, The Military, Doctors and even Lawyers come to mind. :) And lets not forget prison guards!!!!

let the String section of the NYP not show up for work, and then let the gabarge collectors not show up for work!! See which wheel gets the grease.

Most of this is just in fun. My real issue with Schubert is that he said the US Army and the USMC were armed mobs.

BTW, Frogman you should always carry a card with the phone number of the New York Philharmonic, just in case you ever get hit by a bus, they can call the trombome section to rush to your aid. :) Hell, who needs doctors anyway!

Could a computer play Be-bop?

Cheers

More thoughts . Germany, having learned that hate and militarism is for fools,is now perhaps the sanest of the large States.
In Germany a HS teacher makes 2/3 of what Docs do and has has more social prestige.
Any player in the Berlin Phil has more prestige than either.
The conductor is a half-step below God.
In Leipzig during the last stages of the GDR, Kurt Masur was God.
He walked the streets alone , telling people to be calm and non-violent, no one else could have done it. To this day a hallowed figure in eastern Germany.

If you ever lived in Germany, you didn't pay attention.

and

your post is nonsense.

Cheers