Ayre now has a new QX-5 all in one


box with DAC/Streamer (Tidal etc), Roon ready. It has nearly any input and a great headphone amp too.  It can also be used as a preamp, although I personally have yet to hear any digital pre sound as good as a great preamp, but that's me.  It's all balanced and has the Ayre power supply filters that all the Ayre products have.  I can't wait to hear it. I personally am running a great sounding Empirical Audio OSDE/SE with all the upgrades from Steve and I also have a Mac Mini server that Empirical totally rebuilt with a separate Hynes linear power supply.  It's full of only hi rez, well recorded music of all genres.  I love it, but the new servers do sound a bit better, so I've been looking.  I didn't want to set up a NAS, but since I run a Linn DS system in the bedroom I'm open to it.  I love the Melco NAS and may just get that for my NAS and the Ayre for everything else.  I want a simple, one box solution and I do use IEM's and cans on Sunday and Sat mornings so having a great amp solution in my main rig is enticing too.

I rn an Ayre AX-5 Twenty with Vandersteen Treo's (going to sell so I can upgrade to the Quatro's) and Basis/Aesthetix's for vinyl.  Pretty exciting times in digital.  I'm sure that Ayre will be a great value for all that it offers and it should sound incredible.  Time will tell.
ctsooner
It's possible to make a piece of equipment, especially speakers, "discriminating" without being better.  Make the input receivers more sensitive, reduce the buffer sizes, increase the output impedance, etc. and you have a piece of equipment that is now more "revealing" of upstream components.

Not saying that's always the case, but be careful about being fooled into thinking something "discriminating" is always better.

Best,


Erik
Erik, I understand what you are saying, however I do have a fairly decent ear.  I don't like most products on the market for that reason.  To many products are fatiguing when they reveal too much. Just not engineered properly for my money.  The one thing I appreciate about the Ayre gear is that they are neither tube, nor SS. They are highly revealing to my ears, while not ragged or fatiguing on top.  They work very hard to achieve this as we all know.  They build in their own double stage filtering for the AC which allows the unit to have a much lower noise floor.  I think you are using 'discriminating' as revealing, but am not totally sure.  If so, I agree whole heartedly.  All of audio is about tradeoffs.  It has to be since there is no way to get 'live', without listening to live music.  

I dislike so many of the top named speakers as well as electronics because they are 'always dynamic' or 'have huge soundstage' or .....you get the picture.  I like to think that at all price points you can put together musical systems that let you listen for long periods of time and enjoy what yo are listening to.  The more expensive the system, you should get more out of it up to the point of no return that you can handle financially. It's pretty basic, but I read the forums and I see how much used gear is out there and I'm in touch with so many who are always looking for what's 'next'.  When I decided to do upgrades a couple of years ago, I set out to sell off all my older gear.  I had a budget to start with and I went out to audition everything under the sun so that I had references for all gear.  Then I started to make lists of gear I could never live with long term or not at all.  they all got cut from my list.  I noticed that there were some names on there that I have never liked, but there were a few that sounded totally different than they did yet 10 or more years ago.  I knew what I could afford after selling my gear and I knew roughly how much I'd have to spend going forward, so I decided to chose gear that was well made, sounded good, could be sold later on without a huge loss and fit my room.  I was very pleased and loved listening again. I even got into portable audio since I'm on the road so much.  Just some amazing values out there to my ear and I'm so happy I've gone this route. 

Now I'm close to getting where I want to be.  I will have purchased and sold most of the gear I bought two years ago (or so), but that was the plan. I found a few dealers whom I knew years ago as well as new ones whom I trust.  I audition systems as much as I do various products.  Yes, there are certain lines that I found I love and I'm staying in those lines for the most part.  I'm still open to all gear as I never thoughts I would leave tubes and I have and I never thought I'd like Vandersteen speakers and I love them.  Yes, call me the fanboy, but only because of what they are to me and I appreciate it.  There are only a few other speakers lines that I personally have enjoyed listening to and a couple only have speakers in the 30k plus range.  That's never going to happen for me, but I'm happy for the folks who can and will afford them.

The QX5 Twenty is the first piece I have purchased without hearing, although I was able to cancel the purchase.  I listened to a new piece and loved what I heard at the end of the day when it was warmed up and just starting to break in.  I'm glad I made the move based solely on what I'm told by a few who are using it and have it broken in.  I know one person's ears very well and I trust what they tell me when I hear them talk about it in the system that I will use it in (i.e., they set it up with all my gear, including my cable).  they don't have the source I'll be using, but I'm trusting that won't be an issue at all.

I listen differently than I used to.  I hear things differently.  When you sit and listen with folks who do this for a living from dealer to manufacturer to engineer, you tend to pick up on things they do.  I listen to ever more live music now than I ever did.  I used to play drums (before the MS set in and put a halt to that), so I do like to think I have an understanding to how live music and vocals should and do sound.  I know where I like to listen to when I can pick my seats.  I'm  mid to 2/3'rds back guy (center of course), so I am not into a system that puts the music forward of the front plane of the speakers.  I like the room to pressurize when it should, but that's hard in my room because of the layout and openings.  I get that.  I have to listen near field for many reasons, so that also may have changed what I have and will purchase.

Just a background on where I'm coming from and why I post what I do.  Hope that helps you understand my posts a bit more.  I listen to everything from hard rock to soft rock to .......everything.  Thanks
I really love Ayre, by the way! I love their sound, and modern Audio Research.

My experience with the Ayre DAC's however was mixed.  From a highly modded Mac, Bleah.  From thier own CD player it was superb. 

After reading your thoughts, I think I want gear that is MUSICALLY revealing, but not technically revealing.  I don't want to be able to switch USB cable and hear a difference, or really, switch among various amps and hear that my speaker needs the beefiest one's to have the best bass.

And sometimes I really don't want the gear to be that musically revealing either. ..... :)



Your mileage may vary!

Best,


Erik
I wasn't a big fan of the 9, just wasn't.  I do like the Codex a ton.  Erik, have you heard one yet?  Very few DAC's compare when it comes to an all everything, set it up and play music.  The balance headphone amp is very well done too.