Jazz for aficionados

Hi guys - just caught up to all the posts today. Rok, I guess you now want to move on, but before we do, I honestly, along with Frogman, am even more confused about what you think you are talking about with your "nuts and bolts" comment. I grant you the use of your term as you want to use it - that's not the issue - the issue is it is not at all clear. I know of no musician who would say "playing music in accordance with some musical theory, and that alone, can make a player great." This is absurd on the face of it, no musician would ever say that. What we do not understand is that you really do seem to think that many do?? Could you give us a specific example?? I am not trying to attack your position, I am honestly trying to understand it, as it seems to make no sense.

Far be it from me to diss Central Texas, by the way. I am very familiar with it, having grown up there. I was merely describing the classical music scene as compared to the country/alternative rock scene down there.

Rok, I thought long and hard, no I don't remember any fat people, even as much as they ate then; while food was the biggest thing in life in the country, there was always a lot of work to be done. Our existence is so much easier now, even if it is much more complex.

Yes, I recall walking barefooted down dirt roads, and how good that soft dirt felt under bare feet. I also recall some of the most beautiful fragrances wafting by, they smelled better than any cologne or perfume. Where they came from I don't know, whether they came from wild flowers, bushes, trees or whatever, these different beautiful fragrances wafted by quite regularly in the country.

Sorry, I don't remember any music in Winona, but I do remember the music from that time, and here is some of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMR3OnbmWkA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xovmaG9S0sQ

Although Dorothy Dandrige is more colorful, I think this one by Ella Mae Morse was the one we heard on the radio.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ortOAiClE34

Enjoy the music.

Learsfool:

*****I grant you the use of your term as you want to use it - that's not the issue *****

Thank you. That's an important point.

**** I know of no musician who would say "playing music in accordance with some musical theory, and that alone, can make a player great." This is absurd on the face of it, no musician would ever say that.*****

Aboslutely true!! I agree with you. Well, one might. :)

***** What we do not understand is that you really do seem to think that many do?? ******

AHA!! now we get to the core of the problem. This is an example of The Frogman's Jedi Mind Tricks. He makes a statement, finds it cannot be defended, and now, all at once it's MY statement. I do not think this!! I use N&Bs to sum up what I feel THE FROGMAN thinks.

He said as much when we talked about the clip with some trumpet player and Phil Woods. I can't quote him, but I came away with the idea that he thought the trumpet solo to be the 'perfect' bebop solo. I thought it was noise.

This is the clip where I pointed out the obvious, that Woods is Fat.

So Learsfool, you are preaching to the Choir. You need to ask The Frogman to clarify / explain Nuts and Bolts. It's his term. Once he does that, we can start all over again. Perhaps, I will then have to rename "nuts and Bolts" Jazz.

In the mean time, lets remember Ellington's " It don't mean a thing, if it ain't got that certain something" :)

Cheers

O-10:

The Nicholas Brothers, WOW. How do they do that?? Amazing! The best dancers EVER!!!

I fell in love with Miss Dandrige after seeing the movie CARMEN JONES. If my thought dreams could have been seen, my mom would have washed my mind out with lye soap. What a beauty she was. Went to sleep a many a night, with her on my mind.

Thanks for the clips.

Cheers

O-10:

Interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDO1SL-gj98

Cheers