Audiogon wouldn't let me post the link. You go to Asus site and look up model: Q504UA laptop.
Looking for laptop Windows 10 for music only.
Morning. Been looking through the PC section here and don't see many recent Windows PC threads.
I would like to get a new laptop PC (only) for my music. I am currently using a Samsung Series 9 with Windows 10, updated from Windows 7. JRiver 21 as listening source. My wants are specifically: Must be PC, Windows 10, backlit keyboard, HD space not that important as I use a external 2TB hard drive for storage. It will be used only for music but this does include Tidal, Radio Paradise, etc. The Samsung works great but I would like to keep the music system separate for convenience.
By doing a little online research it looks like almost anything will do. I am no computer wiz kid, so simple things for my simple mind would be great.
So my questions are:
Is there a preference for a laptop? Or anything OK?
Processor speed; Is Intel I7 necessary, AMD ok...?
Memory size?
How about Windows versions. Home Edition, Pro, etc?
If anyone can advise proper Windows 10 settings or point out a source/thread that would be cool.
Does Windows allow a user to turn off all the fluff running in the back round, or does that matter any more?
System; USB out to Benchmark DAC2 HGC, Krell KCT Pre, Krell FPB300cx amp. Using JRiver 21, music ripped using Apple lossless.
I can't thank you all enough for all the great information I've read and received here over the years.
-John
I would like to get a new laptop PC (only) for my music. I am currently using a Samsung Series 9 with Windows 10, updated from Windows 7. JRiver 21 as listening source. My wants are specifically: Must be PC, Windows 10, backlit keyboard, HD space not that important as I use a external 2TB hard drive for storage. It will be used only for music but this does include Tidal, Radio Paradise, etc. The Samsung works great but I would like to keep the music system separate for convenience.
By doing a little online research it looks like almost anything will do. I am no computer wiz kid, so simple things for my simple mind would be great.
So my questions are:
Is there a preference for a laptop? Or anything OK?
Processor speed; Is Intel I7 necessary, AMD ok...?
Memory size?
How about Windows versions. Home Edition, Pro, etc?
If anyone can advise proper Windows 10 settings or point out a source/thread that would be cool.
Does Windows allow a user to turn off all the fluff running in the back round, or does that matter any more?
System; USB out to Benchmark DAC2 HGC, Krell KCT Pre, Krell FPB300cx amp. Using JRiver 21, music ripped using Apple lossless.
I can't thank you all enough for all the great information I've read and received here over the years.
-John
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You would probably get more info on the Win10 forum.(
www.tenforums.com/) FWIW, why not build your own machine? It's pretty easy and you can get all the things you want or need and not spend on unnecessary items. I built my win10 micro atx pc so I can stream music throughout the house and it works like a charm. I like streaming/digital music so much that I have not played a CD in months My setup is getting a bit old, so I am sure there are better setups. As far as turning off superfluous programs, I have found Win10 to be pretty good at managing. For a home system, Win 10 home edition should be more than adequate. |
Hi John, First, as you undoubtedly realize the answers to most questions regarding configuration of a computer for audio applications figures to be dependent on the specific computer, the specific DAC that is being used, and the specific system, and therefore to not have a great deal of predictability. So I would resist any temptation to extrapolate too broadly from experiences you may see reported. One reason for that, among many, being the rapid pace of changes in computer technology, meaning that experiences from just a year or two ago may no longer be relevant. That said, my perception has been that approaches which seem to be recommended with a high degree of consistency include playback of music files from a drive other than the one on which the operating system and programs are running (which you are already doing); running the operating system and programs on an SSD rather than on a mechanical hard drive; and having a goodly amount of RAM (e.g., 8 or 16 gB). Beyond that, my suspicion is that choosing the generation of the Intel CPU that is used is likely to be a much more significant factor than choosing between an i3 or i5 or i7, each of those designations having been available across multiple generations. Specifically, I would suggest that your choice be one of the latest 6th generation Intel CPUs. Due to their considerably reduced power consumption, compared to CPUs from previous generations having comparable speeds, I suspect that the 6th generation devices will generate significantly less digital noise, that may ultimately affect jitter at the point of D/A conversion. Regarding Windows 10 Home vs. Pro, I have no direct audio-related experience, but having looked at descriptions of their differences, and having used both for non-audio purposes, I see no reason to not go with the less expensive Home version, as Bob (Gdnrbob) suggested. Regarding AMD processors, I have no basis for an opinion. Regarding eliminating "fluff," assuming a reasonably capable recent generation processor I suspect that a more important factor than turning off unneeded Windows processes would be having the machine free of useless third party "crapware." Which these days seems to come copiously pre-loaded on machines from most of the major (and even minor) manufacturers, and can often be troublesome to fully eliminate. Which brings me to my specific recommendation, if you decide to go with a laptop as you indicated, rather than building your own small computer as Bob suggested (which is also an approach well worth considering). Having owned laptops made by Asus and Sager, and having significant experience helping others deal with problems involving laptops made by HP, Dell, Lenovo, etc., (and also having built numerous desktop machines myself), by far my most positive experience with a laptop and with a laptop supplier has been with one I bought earlier this year from a company called Eluktronics. Like Sager and some other small companies they customize laptops OEM’d by a Taiwanese company called Clevo, but they do it well, and by virtually all accounts (including mine) are a great company to deal with. Especially among computer manufacturers :-) And the Eluktronics branded computers they sell are totally devoid of crapware, with only the Windows OS and necessary drivers installed. I wanted a powerful model for non-audio applications, and so I purchased one of their somewhat upscale models, the PRO15RE, configured with a number of extra-cost options, but I suspect one of their lower priced models would serve you well for audio. Regarding your preference for a backlit keyboard, btw, the PRO15RE I bought includes a very nice one, as well as a beautiful IPS display. I haven’t checked, but I believe that many and possibly all of their less expensive models are similar in those respects. I have no affiliation with Eluktronics or any other computer (or audio-related) company, other than as a very satisfied customer. Good luck. Regards, -- Al |
Some great ideas. As usual Al as posted an very thoughtful & informative response. Been digging through the net hoping to enlighten myself a little further. Once again my mind has been douched with an onslaught of information. Makes me want to drop the needle on some vinyl..... Like others now I almost never spin disks as I use the computer and the awesome Benchmark DAC. Looking forward to getting this put together. Cheers to all, -John |
My earlier post wasn't very detailed as I am not the most current with PC technology- I only do lots of research when I am building my new PC's- so I tend not to look at things for 4-5 years. As Al said, and thanks for the kind words Al, getting something with the latest chip iteration is my favorite way to build. The new Intel Skylake processors have been on my radar for a while now. If you are only using it for music playback, even an I5 should be overkill. 8 gigs of memory should be fine, but 16 gigs is always nice. I think a Win 64 bit is the best way to go for an operating system. And, a SSD for the main drive, say 256 gb, should be more than enough for running the OS and adding programs. An external drive can slow things down, it would be better if it was a separate drive in the PC, but it should not be a problem/bottleneck if it is connected by USB 3, or the newer USBC or Thunderbolt 2. The Eluktronics laptops Almarg mentioned look like a very reasonably priced way to get what you need without the bother of assembly- though I assure you, once you have built a PC, you won't buy a pre-assembled one again. It is easily accomplished and rewards you with the knowledge of what makes it work. HTH Bob |
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