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How do I power my 800D(3)s

Hi folks

I am new to this, but trying to learn fast!

I have long been a fan of Bowers and Wilkins and I am lucky enough to buy a brand new pair of 800D(3)'s.  I have recently built a new house, so now have enough space for this very special purchase, which I plan to make in the next month or so.

I want to run a two channel system in our living room so it's a pretty simple layout.  Can anybody give me some advice, so that I get the best out of the speakers.  Will a Pre-Amp, and an Amp be enough with a Streamer?  Do I need two amps?  

Can you also advise on the best brands to look at.  I see that B&W tends to show the speakers off in thier demo's with Classe?  Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

Matt
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jetter
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Bo1972

As usual, you take 1,000 words to repeat what you have said over and over before.

Let me show you how to summarize and be concise:

1.  You show total disregard for someone's feelings by trashing the speakers he just purchased

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bo1972
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These are facts, we are not talking about preferences. I never met a person with an expensive audio system who would like to have a less deep and wide stage.

Focus on the facts. There are many things which can be compared. 

What do you want to hear: the truth or the things you would like to hear?

Audio needs to become a lot more open and honest. The bullshot stories need to stop. Or you want still want to feed them?

You have no idea how many people who spend a lot of money in audio are not happy with their system. You can spend a lot of money on the 800D3 speakers. But in real the stage will be still at a hifi stereo level.

When you spend these kinds of money you should deserve a 3 dimensional holographic stage with a physical image of voices and instruments to die for.

The focus in audio needs to be more on a level in quality instead of products and brands. Quality you find in the right properties. You will not find them in just buying brands and products. Audio does not work like that. It is a 100% fact that trial and error in audio does not work that well.

I had this discussion with many people who work in audio for a long time and also with people who spend a lot of money on audio. They all agreed that it cost a lot of money for a level what is not equal to the money they often spend.
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audiotroy
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Any suitably well engineered product when setup correctly can sound fantastic. 

The setup and synergy of the system is what needs to be looked at.

The B&W are very fine speakers, and this gentleman needs some good advice.

The store I work at, we are blown away by the T+A electronics from Germany this stuff is unbelievable, I would urge you to find a place to hear the new HV series of electronics, this stuff is remarkable.
joey_v
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Whenever Bo posts, I just scroll right through.  He is delusional as I have the 802d3 and hear none of the junk he spouts.  I have no issues with staging or whatever else he claims is 3D audio.

theres more to audio than just staging too... There's tone, accuracy, and dynamics... None of which the 802d3 and 800d3 lack.


goose
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Matt,

A lot of good suggestions.  I think it's good to get other perspectives and as you mentioned you want a sales person to be unbiased if that's possible.  Another thing I would suggest is take another audio friend with you that you trust (their ears).  I always do this and we compare notes after we listen.  I have listened to the Linn and Classe electronics with the former B&W line.  They were ok but didn't really knock my socks off.  I wouldn't dismiss the integrated route such as the Ayre, Pass Labs, Rowland or as a wild card the Devialet.  If you go the separate route I would suggest keeping the pre amp and amp from the same manufacture to capture the brand synergy.  In the end just trust your ears no matter what anyone says.  You will know it when you hear it. 

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