Classic BAT vs. Audio Research


For those who have heard them, how does a classic all-tube design like a BAT VK-150SE stack up against a new Audio Research design, like a Reference 150?
imgoodwithtools
The "darkness" perceived as house sound in BAT VK75 & VK150 amps is largely a consequence of the Jensen PIO coupling caps. Light, speed, and precision is let in by replacing those caps. It’s a simple, economical, and effective upgrade.
The 150 is a classic amp that can be modified to sound like one of the best.  Do you know how to solder?
Hi imgoodwithtools
If you’ve got the dough, go Ref 150 se or GS 150. I have a Ref 150 which I purchased when it came out. I later dropped KT 150s from ARC into the unit to obtain what I have been told by ARC insiders gets me 90% of the way to a Ref 150 se. The Kt 150s were a noticeable improvement but not as noticeable as when I went from my Ref 110 to my Ref 150 which was huge. If I were buying from scratch, I’d buy the GS 150 or Ref 150se. I believe some members here have compared the 2 and preferred the GS 150 by a slight margin. Scroll around and I’m sure you’ll find those comparisons.
OTOH, the Ref 150 is a great amp with KT 120s. If the price is right, consider purchasing the unit with KT 120s and  and replacing them with KT 150s in the future so the cost can be spread out. I assure you that all of the above options will provide you with great satisfaction.