How does Yamaha CD S2000 reproduce super audio?


If anybody knows, apparently Yamaha CD S2000 player has a 2-channel PCM DAC. 
Then how it works in the super audio mode (what precisely means that it plays SACDs)?
I got it since some time ago (bought new and cheap), it does not sound particularly good,
and I do not really hear any improvement on SACD-s.  
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Yakbob, I have never compared s2100 or s3000 with s2000, and never auditioned them. They have essentially different DACs, s21000 and s2300 have built in ESS Sabre 8 channel DAC, where s2000 likely uses PCM (I guess 2-channel) DAC. This may give some difference in super audio performance, though I am curious whether this also extends on ordinary CDs.  An inexpensive OPPO BDP 105 has a similar ESS DAC, as well as more expensive (almost 4k more) McIntosh MCD550. I am also also curious on their sound  performance, compared to the above ones, and even more expensive super audio players (like Krell Cipher or Audio Research cd9, for instance). 

So far, I am not convinced with SACD players, in general. I have noticed much more sound improvement using Reimyo DACs (I use DAP 777 and there is a newer model DAP 999). In general, JVC 20bit K2 signal processing is perhaps a quite efficient converting technology, at least based on my experience so far the most efficient one. Another advantage is that K2 CDs need no special CD players and can be directly copied.  

With Yamaha s2000 having a bullhorn (megaphone) sound I meant an "echo-like" (indirect) reflective sound. Although, there is really a lightly notable such effect.  On the positive side, Yamaha s2000 reads almost all cd-s easily, ones that other players cannot read, and is faster in reading and moving in between the tracks. 

I forgot to mention that I am using the matching A-S1000 integrated amp with my CD-S1000 player which may explain the synergy and sound quality.


Bill

These Yamaha players are not bad. The issue in my post was, from one side, the technical part of how the 2 channel PCM DAC of Yamaha CD S2000 manages super audio (I don't know which DAC has CD S1000), and, from the other side, the practical performance part. I have tried several super audio cd-s, and not necessarily SACD mode gives better sound than the normal mode, on the same CD S2000. Just as an example, Handel's arias by Lorraine Hunt Lieberton (SACD AV0030) sounds about the same in both modes (definitely, not better in super audio). Handel's Apollo & Dafne SACD definitely sounds worse in super audio mode, whereas Jazz at the Pownshop Vol 1 sounds notably better in super audio mode: more open, real dynamic pleasing sound. At the  same time, I have heard the same CD recorded by JVC K2 system, and, I think the K2 version (that needs no special cd player) sounds even better. 

Since I got only Yamaha cd player that accepts super audio, I cannot judge whether the above is a common situation with super audio players and cd-s, in general. Then as for normal cd-s, you depend too much on the quality of the recording of a SACD. And, besides, you need a special type of cd player. 

I wonder how behave more expensive super audio players. 




The Yamaha CD-S1000 uses the PCM1796 DAC chip.

You know, all CD's and SACD's are not created equal.

Go over to this website and see if some of your CD's and SACD's are listed and look at the DR values of each.

Here is a great example of a CD recording being far superior in dynamic range than the SACD version of the same album.

http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list?artist=dire+straits&album=

http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/103605

VS

http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/116588

And yet another SACD recording that has an excellent DR value. 

http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/70186

Bill