Do equipment stands have an impact on electronics?


Mechanical grounding or isolation from vibration has been a hot topic as of late.  Many know from experience that footers, stands and other vibration technologies impact things that vibrate a lot like speakers, subs or even listening rooms (my recent experience with an "Energy room").  The question is does it have merit when it comes to electronics and if so why?  Are there plausible explanations for their effect on electronics or suggested measurement paradigms to document such an effect?
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shadorne
What a totally useless thread full of ad hominem attacks. If the OP actually cares anymore I will add that I concur with Mapman. Apart from turntables, tubes, and speakers, for the most part any mechanical vibration isolation is totally unnecessary with most SS electronics. This can be proven quite simply by gently tapping the chassis and noting that no sound comes out the speaker even with the volume turned up fully. (Of course, don’t try this with a tube amp or with a turntable or with a sledgehammer)

I would add that a large transformer on a massive power amp can vibrate or hum audibly and so can an optical drive when close to the component but this sound is not coming out from the speakers if the equipment is working properly.

sorry, that doesn’t prove anything. We’re not talking about microphonics here, we’re talking about vibration affecting the audio signal in capacitors, wires and printed circuit boards and microchips in solid state gear and how the CD is read and the affect on wires etc. in everything else. If you smack a CD player real hard it could make the CD skip, but you won’t hear the smack coming out of the speakers. Fuses in both tube and solid state gear are suceptible to vibration which is why aftermarket fuses are usually either ceramic or employ anti-vibration means of some sort. Look ma, no ad hominem attack.
Well if you agree that tapping components is causing vibration in the components and if it makes absolutely no audible sound out the speakers at full volume then you have almost certainly proved that vibration is not a big deal.

so it definitely proves something
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shadorne
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12-21-2016 11:18pm
Well if you agree that tapping components is causing vibration in the components and if it makes absolutely no audible sound out the speakers at full volume then you have almost certainly proved that vibration is not a big deal.

so it definitely proves something.

yes, it means microphonics is not the issue. It’s something deeper. Because vibration degrades CD laser reading and distorts the signal in everything it’s a BIG DEAL. Microphonics is a strawman argument.

Geoffkait:"issue. It’s something deeper. Because vibration degrades CD laser reading and distorts the signal in everything it’s a BIG DEAL. Microphonics is a strawman argument."

Seismic type vibration forces the ENTIRE BUILDING to vibrate. Because seismic type vibration is not unidirectional, but has 6 DIRECTIONS of motion, everything in the building that is sitting on the floor or attached to the walls or ceilings is vibrating in concert with the complex motion of the building. That is why, in order to escape the effects of seismic structural vibration, the components - even solid state components - must be isolated. Nothing is really inert unless it’s decoupled from the building. Thus, even a three foot thick steel or aluminum bar sitting on the floor will vibrate.

Geoff,

The burden is on you to make a simple demonstration to show that vibration is a big issue. Cars and other mobile devices do not suffer electrical distortion due to vibration of electronics. You are talking about a fringe issue that is obviously rare or we would encounter it more often on a daily basis.