Wilson Audio Haters


I've always wondered why there are so many people out there, that more than any other speaker manufacturer, really hate the Wilson line. I own Maxx 2's and also a pair of Watt Puppys. They are IMHO quite wonderful.

Why does Wilson get so much thrashing?

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To you to understand what a 3 dimensional stage does and work.

Even for intimate recordings were the voice is put in front, you get more space beside and behind. This give the music a more intimate and tangible image. This is how a voice or instrument is being experienced in real as well.

Intimate sound is a part of Tru-Fi. And is based on how instruments and voices are being projected and formed.

A friend of mine had a concert room with a Steinway grande piano. It was a room for about 60 people. Here I learned how small and direct voices and instruments are. And also how important the space around voices and instruments are.

When you compare amps, sources and loudspeakers with eachother the differences between how the stage is being build is huge.

We are also dealer of Stillpoints and yess they create a wider and deeper soundstage. But there are many different things to create a wider and deeper stage.

Our Statement Audio Pro-measurement creates also a much wider and deeper soundstage. It creates a better phase.

Many of my clients use the word; addictive for the 3-Dimensional stage. At the end it is a part, but in highend an important part to distinguish from hifi stereo.

I visited jazz concerts with a stunning level in stage depth and diversity in height of the instruments. This made a big impression on me. This is how I want an audio system to build a stage.

When you work more accurate you will create more stage depth, width and height. These days we work at 0.5mm precision. It makes a difference!

We have ideas to use conservatorium students for audio presentations to show people what intimate sound means and does. And to show them how small and direct sound is.

Jetter:  Can't add too much to that statement, but I do note that when the Avalon Ascent came out it was often paired with Rowland equipment (I heard them in Mike Hobson's then-boutique store driven by Rowland Model 7s).  They has a tremendous three-dimensional soundstage, better than any speaker I had ever heard at the time. J. Gordon Holt wondered in print whether that might in part be due to a frequency dip in the Rowland/Avalon interface in the midrange.

While I do like a 3-D soundstage, there are other things (truth in timbre, reproduction of micro and macro-dynamics, rhythmic flow) that make for a realistic or satisfying listening experience.  Some (apparently Bo) place more importance on one of those aspects than another.  To each his/her own.

Depth of soundstage should vary with each recording according to the venue and recording techniques of the recording itself, single mike recordings usually giving the best illusion of accurate spatial imaging of the actual performance.

Depth of individual performers and or instruments should have clearly identifiable spatial locations representing the actual spacing of each in relationship to the other, providing the recording/mastering captures this information.

If a system does so, it is not due to some frequency anomaly, but an indicator of reproduction accuracy and largely dependent on the time coherence of the speakers.

If depth and spatial information is consistent from recording to recording, then the system is creating the illusion of depth through distortions, whether engineered into the equipment intentionally or not.

Accurate reproduction of depth is as important to listener involvement as accurate lateral reproduction (stereo imaging), IMO.  

Dave
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... single mike recordings usually giving the best illusion of accurate spatial imaging of the actual performance
How can you capture depth with just a single microphone? Do you actually think monophonic recordings have better "spatial imaging" than a good stereo - or binaural - recording?

Thank you for your above discussions regarding the creation of a 3d image, as this is a subject of interest to me.