Wilson Audio Haters

Cleeds, 
Excellent comments! Wise, concise and profound in their truthfulness.
Charles

The strangest and most self-defeating marketing campaign I ever witnessed...

Dave

Bo has simply discovered the weird directivity effects of ribbons. Nothing new about that. A ribbon tweeter is much too tall for the frequencies it is transmitting. This means you get weird flanger comb filter type effects - some frequencies totally cancel out while others reinforce. This is the 3D he has discovered. It is laughable really because this is an artifact. It isnt high fidelity at all. It really messes with the sound and your perception of where it is coming from as a function of frequency. Some frequencies will come from ceiling and some from only side walls and others from the speakers. Basically a total mess if you are a purist and seek high fidelity. But great if you like weird SFX and point sources to become larger than they should.

You also get weird artifacts with an Appolito design. He may have discovered this also. Nothing he has discovered has not been known for already 30 years. However he thinks he is on to something new because most speaker companies shun these type designs that give inconsistent 3D artifacts in favor of accuracy and high fidelity.

Bo1972
is this your web page and is this your system setup?

https://www.facebook.com/bobby.kingma

thanks.

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to Crazyeddy’s thread subject.

Personally. I have known two Wilson speaker owners over the years, of which I actually heard their systems. This was a long time ago. Both were using their shared living rooms and were married. The first guy had speakers on castors and was anal about room positioning. He would roll them out to the tape markings on the floor when listening and push them back to the front wall when not in use. The second fellow, he had them arranged along the front wall, very similar to the system shown in Bo1972’s url link above. Both could be described as audiophiles and music lovers. Different expectations.

An AMT tweeter is not a ribbontweeter. It is a totally different technique. Again 3-dimensional sound has nothing to do with a ribbontweeter.

We also have clients who use speakers with a dome-tweeter who also own a 3-dimensional stage now. It is based on properties and working very accurate. 3-dimensional sound is not new, there are different brands and products who can build a 3 dimensional stage as well.

It is a 100% fact that people prefer a 3 dimensional stage. The same as that people prefer a sound with more diversity. This has nothing to do with personal taste. But like I said again: it is based on our emotion.

Some people have difficulties to read, so I will repeat it for those. 3-dimensional sound is only 1 part of Tru-Fi. All the different 8 parts are important and influences our emotion.

It was a 100% fact that the AMT tweeter outperformed the tweeter of the Wilson Sasha. Again it has nothing to do with personal taste.

The AMT tweeter vs the outdated dome tweeter of the Sasha showed:

- The AMT could reveal more details
- could reveal diversity in height of instruments and voices. With the Wilson they showd the same level in height.
- with different recordings the Sasha showed harshness ( ssssss sound) in the high freq. The Pl-200 II showed with all these recordings no any kind of harshness.
- The low frequencies were so much faster and showed more layers compared to the Sasha.
- The Pl-200 II could create a wider and deeper stage.
- The sound of the Pl-200 II was more natural and more open
- The individual focus of instruments and voices was so much sharper with the Pl-200 II.
- The Pl200 II showed much more diversity in sound.

We want more shootouts of audio, and no more bullshit paid stories. Audio is all about facts and shootout.

All our clients with more expensive audio have a Statement Audio Pro measurement. The difficulties most of you suffer, are gone for us already for many years. The resolution in audio shops and at shows is inferior compared to our resolution.

Advantages AMT against a dome-tweeter are: bigger power handling, significantly less distortion, bigger stage, more natural sound, better dynamics, a better timing and a more flat impedance.

Again we can proof this by sound!!