When and how did you, if at all, realize vinyl is better?

Exclusivity is at the core of this, as is most things audiophile.   If CDs cost $100 each, we would all be singing the praises of digital.  We always love and crave what the masses don't or can't have.

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It is a done deal in my mind and in my system, digital is the way to go.  I have a SOTA Sapphire vacuum TT with an SEAC tonearm and Dynavector 20X10 cart and a modified Oppo 103D.  Of course the vinyl sounds great, but the hassle of pulling out LP's, cleaning them, and having to repeat the process every 30 minutes has gotten to be way to much of a hassle.  I did a comparison last year with a guy who has a very fine system and we compared his VPI rig to his Modwright-modified Oppo CD player and I will be damned if I could hear a difference between the recordings. Nor could he.  I think vinyl is a legacy sort of thing that folks don't want to abandon.  If you have tons of vinyl available, its great, but if you are a newbie, my best advice is to forget about vinyl.  My $500 Oppo is a world-beater and makes my life simple and musical.  So does Spotify, which I listen to more and more everyday.  

I've never not had a Turntable. And I've owned digital since the first player released by Sony in 1979.

I've always seen digital as a listening convenience. It's like those who listen to a switchable amp like a Plinius with a Class A and Class A/B switch where one listens to Class A/B for not critical listening. But when you're ready for sitting in the sweet spot you switch that amp into Class A.

Vinyl far surpasses digital, and is less fatiguing to my ear. What's better is always subjective to the listener. But I've always scratched my head in respect to those who can't readily hear the obvious difference...head scratching!

This is a little like debating over whether the weather is nicer in Arizona or San Diego.  Depends on what you prefer and what the weather was like when you were there.  

That said, I do love the sound of vinyl.  I find that the best go-to LPs please/impress more consistently than the vast majority of my 2-channel digital recordings.  Now, some of the digital 5.1 stuff is a different experience, albeit the availability of source material is limited.  

But I think the quality of digital can be a lot closer to analog than many people have experienced here.  It's best to take the data off the spinning disk and play through an appropriately optimized computer or quasi-computer system.  This optimization can be very intense trial and error, and involves a ton of both hardware and software variables.  

So while many listen to digital through very high end gear, you can do a lot better by being an under the hood PC guy.  Then you have to get compulsive about finding the best digital source material - re-buying CDs with better mastering and sometimes even remixing from what was available in the 80s and 90s, and of course hunting down genuine and legitimate hi res versions that are not just upsampled or poorly mastered.  

Add the effort and you will be rewarded with digital.  It's there.  Not saying that the sound alone is superior, but you can get to the point where which is better is on a recording by recording basis rather than format vs. format.  

Then if you add the convenience factor, digital has a legitimate reason to be in your audio lives, without sacrificing quality for the most part.  

  I ditched my vinyl a long ago in favor of CDs. I don’t miss the vinyl, though I can relate to the elegance of an all analog path. After all, all speakers are analog, as they must be, since our ears are.  Having said that introducing a cartridge adds a transducer to the mix.  People spend A LOT of money trying eliminate the coloration inherent.  But just like speakers, there is not a perfect solution.

Digital is different.  It can be as accurate as the technology of the DACs (both at the recording -- analog to digital and the playing digital to analog) will allow.  Both sides are bound to improve and become less expensive (for the same level) over time.  While there is inherent noise associated with vinyl there is no inherent noise to digital.   (Do any of you guys still use film cameras?  I thought so.  ;)  )

As for sound:  with enough money you can make vinyl nearly noiseless (as long as your records are new) and there is a difference in sound.  If you like that difference enough to forgo a Corvette, enjoy!!

As I said I ditched my records a long time ago. I still have my 1,000 or so CDs, but I don’t listen to them anymore. Instead I listen to FLAC files (I subscribe to TIDAL) for the following reasons:

1). Economic: I get access to all of my CD’s (or near enough as makes no matter) plus anything else I want to try on for size. The $20/month I pay to tidal is nothing. There was a time I spent 20 times that amount or more on CDs.

In addition, I can try out new music without spending additional $.  If I don't like it, I just don't add it to my favorites.

Plus I don’t need to spend a lot of money on playback devices. Vinyl enthusiasts spend thousands on turntables and cartridges. I see record cleaners costing more than $1,000!!!

2) Convenience (guilty as charged):  Tidal stores my music for me (though I do store my favorite albums on my phone so I can listen to them when I don’t have a high speed internet connection)

3) Longevity: My FLAC files will never wear out, get scratched, or otherwise degrade. You can’t even say that for CD’s though they are less susceptible to wear and somewhat more forgiving of minor damage than vinyl.

4) Portability. I can take all my music with me wherever I go. If I don’t have an acceptable setup available for playing through loudspeakers, I can connect my Oppo headphones to my phone (an LG V20 which sports a decent DAC).