Class D is just Dandy!


I thought it was time we had a pro- Class D thread. There's plenty of threads about comparisons, or detractors of Class D.

That's fine, you don't have to like Class D amps, and if you don't please go participate on one of those threads.

For those of us who are very happy and excited about having musical, capable amps that we can afford to keep on 24/7 and don't require large spaces to put them in, this thread is for you.

Please share your experiences with class D amps!
erik_squires
@lalitk I've a tube pre used in conjunction with my class D monoblocks. I absolutely love this combo. Beautiful, lush detail with loads of power and control. 

If you don't mind me asking, how the heck are you going to bi amp without a crossover? I do hope you get there..
Just about a month after getting my first class D, I now have two. I love the Primare I32; but it has no acceptable option for headphones. So I got a little Topping TP30 Mk2 which accepts input from the I32's Pre-out and has headphone and speaker outs. I can connect conventional headphones in the conventional way and my Stax electrets to the speaker terminals. It works and sounds quite nice, except the I32 does not have a speakers on/off switch, since it only has one set of outputs. I need a quick, convenient way to disconnect the main speakers, which are bi-wired and a PITA to connect via bare wire, without compromising the 12G speaker wire. As much as I wanted to avoid bananas, I ordered some stackable ones yesterday.
Hi @merrillaudio

Welcome. I'd like to ask you a few questions about what you pointed out.


However as with all transistors, there is a lag between the command to switch and the actual full switch. This is call the dead time. This has been reduced over the years with faster transistors and also limited with feedback. But it is fast. Hence the apparent speed of Class D also.

Sorry, could you be mistaking "switching time" with "dead time?"

As I understand, you are talking about switching time. How long to go fron on to off, or vice-versa.

I think "dead-time" is a little different. As I understood, the problem with bi-polar PWM amplifiers (uses + and - V at the transistors) is that you must NOT have the positive and negative sides on at the same time. This affects both efficiency and distortion. I link Wikipedia and a B&O brochure discussing it. (The PDF is a little easier to get).

https://granitedevices.com/wiki/Dead-time_distortion

http://www.icepower.bang-olufsen.com/files/solutions/iceedge_brochure_final_20150624.pdf

By the way, this issue with multiple transistors being on at the same time plagued Carver for many years. :) but in his case, he was switching among multiple voltages of the same polarity. Eventually it was solved by reducing the switching speed.

Best,

E
@toddverrone, You may be confusing 'Active' bi-amping with bi-amping. 

Bi-Amp - 2 amps wired to the speakers LF and MF/HF binding posts using the internal passive crossover.

Active Bi-Amp - Putting an active crossover in between the amps and the preamp. In this case, it's highly recommended to remove the crossover in the speaker and wire the drivers directly to the binding posts. This adds a level of complexity you may or may not like because you have to know crossover point of the MF/HF and LF drivers. 

Fortunately, my VT-80 outputs equal watts in 4 and 8 ohms load with 26dB gain which made it bit easy to coordinate. I tried few Class D amps that had very high damping factor or high gain settings (obviously they didn't quite gel as they over-powered the tube amp). While it's only been couple of days with THOR mono's in my system, I am throughly enjoying their more than adequate bass slam. In my system, the key was to attain just the right amount of low end without overwhelming the mid's and high's. So far I have not notice any coherence or speed mis-match issues.  

PS: I am glad to hear that you're enjoying your setup.