I would like to hear them. Im sure they will sound as good as they look.
Ohm Walsh Micro Talls: who's actually heard 'em?
Hi,
I'd love to hear the impressions of people who've actually spent some time with these speakers to share their sense of their plusses and minuses. Mapman here on Audiogon is a big fan, and has shared lots on them, but I'm wondering who else might be familiar with them.
I'd love to hear the impressions of people who've actually spent some time with these speakers to share their sense of their plusses and minuses. Mapman here on Audiogon is a big fan, and has shared lots on them, but I'm wondering who else might be familiar with them.
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OK...obviously and obliviously I stuck MHO into an ongoing 'discussion'. Please allow me to hit 'pause' and explain self and my opinions. Not that I'm right...that could be considered 'unusual', esp. if you queried my spouse about that, but that's another subject for a entirely different forum...*S* Mapman.....far be it from me to say your Ohms are not good speakers, nor good omnis. I have, in the past, even suggested to those who would consider that approach to reproduction to 'give them a go'. One soul, last we chatted, still owns the pair he bought and wouldn't consider anything he's heard since. I will count That as a plus on my karma as an audio fan. They Really Do Sound Good....But....they still are not a true Walsh radiator. Upon opening their innards, or just perusing the pics on Google Pics, what one sees is a (granted) carefully selected woofer, face down. Above it is a dome tweeter, again, carefully selected. Contrasted with the images of the Original Ohms, there's a Big Disconnect. One that Ohm (the company) is quite aware of. Yes, the current product does function to an extent of the originals. The physics involved still work, but they have opted to offer is a variant that is easier to fabricate and produce on a large scale. As a business person myself, I'll be the last mortal to argue and say they shouldn't do this. You like it, bought it, still have it, everyone walks away happy....;) peterr53...I have done my 'homework'. I've studied the Walsh patent, even studied the Hegeman patent that predates it but has remarkable similarities. I've been the 'driving force' (of sorts) of 3 forums eliciting commentary from all and any that would care to comment. Hopefully constructive, and that has occurred. I've chatted with those who 'have been There', and are able to suggest or provide observations that I've taken into account. If I could communicate with the spirit of L. Walsh, I'd do it in a heartbeat.... So...Don't tell me that I Don't Know What a Walsh Speaker IS. Or WHY. As previously stated, I'm doing my own 'variant'...similar to the German Physiks, but slightly larger. Having learned that the originals STILL operated as a 'piston driver' as opposed to one creating 'pure' radial energies I've opted to 'cut off' the lower bass frequencies and hand them off to a sub. Said sub runs 'higher' than one could consider 'typical', but we can discuss 'trade-offs' if you'd care to PM me.... I've been at this 'quixotic quest' for awhile now, doing the improbable with not very much. I'm 'upping my game' of late, Better Everything. I have a modicum of support from a lot of people, some of which used to be in 'the business' of audio.... So...I think that's about I'll infer for now about What I Know. If you like, PM me. I'll be more than happy to chat you up further. Even if it's only MHO...which there's a lot of that about....here....IMHO....;) ....and turning a woofer 'face down' is Easy. I've done it. The next step... Not so much.... And I'd still prefer to be a friend to you, Maps....Really.... |
It looks like the forum police stole my last post.....must be my dirty mouth Im guessing. asvjerryif I read that right (I might be wrong) I said something wrong about your knowledge when it comes to the Walsh driver??? We actually spoke about five years ago as I was in the market for a set of speakers. Unfortunately I had cancer and $10k was a little strong at the time, especially not knowing if I would be kicking a year later or not. I bought the 4/5000 not knowing much about The speaker, but I liked the originals so I took a leap of faith. When I got them I was basically out of it for about a year physically and mentally. But slowly I realized that something was missing. They did sound great with most music, but I was missing something. And that's basically how things started. Im not going over the story (if interested go back many many pages and read it from the beginning, it's a fun crazy read. A few days ago I started to think that there might be a better 12" woofer/midrange driver ot there somewhere. Something that cost more but might give me an extended midrange clean up to 4khz and wouldn't you believe it, there it was about $250 not bad, so I might get a pair to try em out see if I can squeak out a little bit more out of the "Walsh" driver idea. Love to try one of Jerrys babies.....hmmm Its late time to go to bed......🇸🇪 |
The real Walsh trick is to develop a full range Walsh driver that is reliable and does not self destruct. Dale Harder, who posted on this thread earlier is the only one attempting to do this commercially these days it still seems. http://www.hhr-exoticspeakers.com/ If I understand the principles of a Walsh driver correctly, any driver can function as one but only certain ones make good ones. Knowing how to find or fabricate those seems to be the trick. It's been proven doable for limited range in the lower frequencies with OHM and higher frequencies with German Physiks and Harder seems to to best carry the torch regarding full range Walsh speakers. |
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