Tube Phono with Tube Integrated Amp?

"i've read on this forum that a tube phono is better paired with a solid state amp."  I don't know where you read that, but on a technical level, the opposite is usually true; if you want both tubes and ss in the signal path, then you are better off using an ss preamplifier to drive a tube amplifier.  This is because the output impedance of tube preamplifiers is generally much higher than that of ss preamplifiers; conversely, the input impedance of a typical SS amplifier is much lower (as much as 10X lower) than that of a typical tube amplifier.  Ideally, the ratio between the output impedance of the driving stage should be around 10-fold lower than the input impedance of the amplifier.  As you can guess, this will not always be the case if you mate a tube phono to a SS amplifier.  The result of such an impedance mismatch is potentially a loss of gain or roll-off in the treble range.  But there is no imperative to mix the two technologies, anyway.  They both play well together, tubes with tubes; SS with SS.

Manley vs Allnic.  Two excellent choices.  You won't go wrong with either, and I think both of them offer limited functionality as line stages. So you would not need to buy a separate line stage, if you only use one other source besides phono.  (Check me out on the specs for the Chinook and the H1201 to be sure in fact that both do offer at least one high level input.  I use a Manley Steelhead, which does have that feature.)  Also, check out the new Atma-sphere phono, with pricing in the same range as the Chinook and H1201.

Check me out on the specs for the Chinook and the H1201 to be sure in fact that both do offer at least one high level input. I use a Manley Steelhead, which does have that feature.

Neither the Allnic H1201 nor the Manley Chinook offer any high level inputs. Both are strictly phono stages.

Also, check out the new Atma-sphere phono.

I see no information about this on the Atma-Sphere website. Must be too new!

EDIT: In my post of 10:16 AM today, I wrote the following confusing sentence: "Ideally, the ratio between the output impedance of the driving stage should be around 10-fold lower than the input impedance of the amplifier." Obviously, the sentence does not make sense, would better have written, "the output impedance of the driving stage should be around 10-fold lower than the input impedance of the amplifier". Thus the ratio between them would be 1:10.

First off, it’s bs to say generally that a tube phono goes better into a SS integrated. Second, the Chinook is actually a hybrid, with SS step up into a tube MM stage. That part has never really been advertised about the Chinook.

"First off, it’s bs to say generally that a tube phono goes better into a SS integrated. Second, the Chinook is actually a hybrid, with SS step up into a tube MM stage."

Mulveling- your system sounds great just looking at the pics..bravo!
I can only dream of having a system at that level.

I was wondering if anyone would tell it like it is. Although what's "best" is subjective, why do so many reviews of SS units say..."the unit sounds like a tube unit"? Maybe a very good designed SS amp is nicer than a so-so tube amp?

Someone can check me on this- Isn't there a FET in the 1st gain stage of the Chinook? I've demoed one in my rack next to my existing tubed phono, which feeds the tube line stage and tube amp(oh no..it not SS!)