I agree with glennewdick - Luxman is more affordable than Accuphase and actually may be even more affordable with their new US distribution. I have not seen the new price list but I am certain you can get a new Luxman integrated for $6,000 or less. I have owned both brands and Accuphase is better sounding. If you are smitten by the characteristics of the E-470, you might be a bit disappointed with the Luxman integrated sound (a bit more polite that Accuphase). Music Direct sells Luxman and they offer a 60 day money back guarantee. It might be one way to go!