cardas speaker positioning


I have my speakers positioned within a living space. Compromised, but acceptable. With a few quick room tweaks, not bad.

Been feeling the upgrade bug lately, so I moved my 7 year old boxes into the recommended
Cardas position and...wow! My system now sounds like all the money I dumped into it.
Now I’m imagining those NEW speakers in this position!

A reminder-you really do have to get the speakers to play to the room.

I DO hear all the ’phile adjectives, but man, it sure looks ridiculous.

Without a dedicated space, how the heck do you guys explain having speakers (3-4ft+) out in the room to the S.O.?

Just curious, as I don’t have to answer to a "higher authority"

The girlfriend rolls her eyes anytime she sees what’s going on in my place.





tablejockey
I've been using the Cardas formula for a few years
ever since I started using their cables,
The equilateral triangle is the key,
wall space depends on the speaker porting,
my previous speakers had a rear port so being further away
from the front wall was important, distance was about 7 feet
apart and to the sweet spot.
my current speakers have a front port so I can be closer to the front wall,
now at at just over 8 feet apart and to the sweet spot
Toe-in can be a difference of a 1/4 inch between good and great.
Moving the speakers is free and in most cases easy.
Room treatment can make a suprising improvement.
Have fun.

Five feet out in the room
Where is the bass at 
Are you 10.5 feet sitting  from your speakers. I don't go
Past 48 inches from back wall. I start to miss bass
vair68robert-I've been aware of and  read the Cardas method years ago. Finally decided to give it a try. Glad I did. I have a better appreciation for my speakers.
The speakers are sealed cabinets, so I don't know what that adds to the equation.
There probably is a little more to be squeezed out, with minor adjustment, but I'm satisfied for now. I haven't gone the last mile with subtle tweaking yet.


twoch- pleasantly surprised there's no shortage of low end with the speakers based on the calculator. Speakers are 6' apart(ctr-ctr) and i'm just outside "the triangle"  Low end is amazingly strong without turning the subs on. With the subs on, its like "icing in the cake."
http://www.cardas.com/room_setup_calculators.php



I obtained a pair of Martin/Logan L-3 speakers about a year ago.  Living in a small one bedroom I was forced to place the spekers ell into the living room for best results.  Next I replaced the stock power cords with a pair of Adioquest MRG-10 power cords.  The simple change in power cords made s big change right off.  Well next I obtained a Adioquest Niagara power strip along with an Audioquest NRG-100 power cord to it.  The base audio reproduction was relly great by this time.  Well, where does this lee me-wit two large Martin/Logan speakers well into the room plus an Audioquest Niagsra right between them with three Audioquetst power cords -it's like a minor obsticle course just to navigate around the living room.  Such is the life of s true sudiophile.  And clositspace?  I have five huge boxes in my bedroom closit with a lot of mid sized boxes in the upper shelf.  My bedroom closit has been taken over mostly for sudio stuff.  And the wires all around me.  It looks much like a 1960's movie set with all the wires and cables all over.  But who cares?  I don't.
Thanks to all for recommending the Cardas advice on speaker positioning. I listen in near field with my speakers on the long wall of a rectangular room. Moving the speakers forward 9cm to align exactly with the golden ratio in each corner had a major effect in removing an annoying room bass boom that I had been living with. While quite euphonic it was clearly muddying the bass and masking other frequencies. So I would strongly advise taking the time to apply these good recommendations.