Audio desk pro vs. Clear audio double matrix


Hi all
I'm into upgrading my RCM from the good old okki nokki. My short list is the Audio desk pro and the Clear audio duble matrix. Did anyone compare the two or can comment on any of them ?
Thanks in advance.
icorem
This thread is BAD. It's a trigger for the "open my wallet syndrome" I REALLY want to finally dump my 10 year old spin clean, but just can't convince myself to part with $3-4K. I shouldn't have such apprehension, considering I've acquired a level of gear to justify such an extravagant expense.

Starting  off  with exceptionally clean used records, my SC surprisingly, does an acceptable job. 

pbnaudio-that budget solution looks like the ticket for a cheapskate like myself.
I'm a little put off by the DIY protocol, but if indeed, it's gets the job done 90% compared to the AD/KL, I might be able to get over the perceived amount of extra steps required. 

My "buy now" finger is twitching.

Tablejockey - sorry for starting this awful wallet openning thread.....
I'm with you. Up until now I used the non expensive okki nokki . My analog buddies told me I don't know what i'm missing here so i'm about to dip my leg in the ultrasonic water and probably invest in the audiodesk machine.

icorem-

I'm just patiently waiting to pounce on a used V2 AD. After giving the first version a try years ago, I've dreamed of owning one.

I play many treasured Verves and Blue note Jazz mono's, along with the requisite R&R. I do hear the value in one of these expensive machines, I just want one for a "working guy" price.

Good luck to you.

TJ,  you should jump on it you will not be disappointed, Ive steered many a customer in this direction and all have been pleased.  Yes its a little more involved than the AD or the KL with the few extra steps - but at 10 % the cost it's a no brainer.  

Good Listening


Peter
Ive had both the KL Audio and the Audio Deske, both are fine machines, the only thing I did not like about the Audio Deske is the "exit mark" the rollers leave where a tiny amount of "dirt" is left behind. The KL Audio does not suffer from this and is in my opinion the best RCM available today. 

I had the Audio Desk Pro and noticed the same issue - the Audio Desk rollers left marks in the lead-in groove causing sometime additional noise. The possible damage to the vinyl was cause enough to move away from the Audio Desk to the KL audio and is the main reason why I would NOT recommend the Audio Desk.

The KL audio does not have the roller issue and has the following advantages:
  1. It is easier to clean the tank. This is important to remove all deposits at the bottom of the tank. 
  2. There are no additional fluids, rollers, etc. required. Only plained distilled water.
  3. While there is no filter, it is much easier to just exchange the distilled water more often. I change water about every 25-50 cleaned records.
The  only downside is that the KL Audio does not work best with surface stains (e.g. finger prints), which is where the Audio Desk has an advantage due to the rollers.