Tekton Double Impacts


Anybody out there heard these??

I have dedicated audio room 14.5x20.5x9 ft.  Currently have Marantz Reference CD/Intergrated paired to Magnepan 1.7's with REL T-7 subs.  For the vast majority of music I love this system.  The only nit pick is that it is lacking/limited in covering say below 35 hz or so.  For the first time actually buzzed the panel with an organ sacd. Bummer.  Thought of upgrading subs to rythmicks but then I will need to high pass the 1.7's.  Really don't want to deal with that approach.

Enter the Double Impacts.  Many interesting things here.  Would certainly have a different set of strengths here.  Dynamics, claimed bottom octave coverage in one package, suspect a good match to current electronics.

I've read all the threads here so we do not need to rehash that.  Just wondering if others out there have FIRST HAND experience with these or other Tekton speakers

Thanks.
corelli
@teajay  @tektondesign 

Terry, thanks for your wonderful review of the Tekton Design Ulfberths.

I'm always moved by your writing style and skills. Amazing!

Eric, Congratulations to you and your team!
For me these speakers are everything I could want except for the fact that they are lacking on the low frequencies on certain music. (And the size lol) But I know they have tons of potential because on certain recordings, the lows are so powerful, rich and satisfying but in a non bloated way. My biggest pet peeve with any system is trying to find recordings/albums to match the speakers vs just hitting play and having most everything sound great. In saying this, the DI's play the best recordings better than anything I've had or heard.

Right, but is this the DI's fault or is it what intrinsic in the music?

I come from a world of headphones, dating back to 1983 or so, and once I got to the upper echelon of cans, I knew that I had to switch to speakers. Notice, however, the bass response with headphones, and how yes, if they recorded the kick drum in 1972 to make it sound like a soft pad, then it should sound that way in 2017. The same with the bass guitar, or cellos, or pipe organ music. What then would make one think that speakers should act any different?

I have the answer. It's that many manufacturers make sure that the bass is goosed when designing speakers. This becomes evident when you get to the lower-mids, and they just sound wrong. These speaker manufacturers posit that the overall ambiance of a recording is directly related to its bass response. They ask the question, "How can we make recordings sound fuller?" They aren't asking how we can make it "neutral" (if there is such a word), yet they certainly aren't asking many of the right questions.

Audiophiles then go into a listening session equipped with certain biases, because audiophiles read a great deal. Audio manufacturers know this, so they play up to it. We come to believe in a certain technology, and it's not that we're going in blindly like so many sheep; nevertheless, anyone who has been an audiophile for a number of years eventually whittles their sonic pleasures down to certain parameters, and a lot of that is predicated upon how the designers, the marketers, and even the record companies want us to hear the music.

So, we're back to subjectivity, right? Well, yes, but as subjective as our environment allows us to be, and that includes what audio gear we decided upon, or can afford, or whatever.

I'm speaking to @grannyring , too, in that, I think it's a great post. Moreover, it has me interested in possibly "upgrading" the DIs at a later time. Still, at least on the surface, you have both described a common malady associated with audio bias, especially a bias that has grown in favor since about 1992, i.e. let's squash the recording in the mastering phase, so that all of the instruments sound equal. Let's turn a wav into a brickwall, and let's put some more juice into that bass. Speaker and headphones manufacturers have since followed suit in order to cater to this new paradigm. Cable manufacturers (in their wisdom) have found a way to color the sound with their wire and insulation, using certain geometries, sub-atomic quark freezing, and precious metals. Room correction software is touted to eliminate the need for acoustic treatment; room correction does not.

I'm just saying, ask yourself, why would recording X have more bass than recording Y, and why do I expect them to have the same amount of bass?    
I should point out that the parts in the $300 Upgrade are interesting. For a DIY dude these are a dream come true.  Great design and bones! 

Dayton $1.50 cap on tweeter
Clarity PX cap on mid tweeters $8

The rest of the caps are all under $5 electrolytics. Bipolar generic types. The wire is all perhaps 18-20 gauge mill spec. All sand cast resistors. 

The fact that these sound so good with these parts is a big testament to the wonderful design. They can be taken to another level easily. 

When a builder is selling to hit a $3300 price point they really have no other choice in terms of parts quality. I would do the very same thing. Heck, they sound good as is. Amazing. 
A lot has been posted here since last night. Fun times.

Yes Charles, I am having a ball with Aric's amp driving the DI's. Once things settle down on my end I'm looking forward to having you over for a listen. I think you'll like what you hear as I'm getting closer to the sound of your system....and that's a good thing!

Grannyring, thanks for sharing your thoughts on the DI's. I find it strange that some find the DI lacking in bass as don't at all. Maybe it's my room or my ears but would never describe the DI's as lean on bass but I respect your evaluation of them. I wish I had the guts to modify components like you do as it sounds like fun and it would be interesting hearing the results. Your use of the 10g WE wire is interesting, I only used 14g and 16g. You even modified your Lyngdorf? That's a product that is very intriguing. I looked into getting one but it being so unconventional and seemingly too good to be true made me shy at pulling the trigger on one. While I'm very happy with the sound I getting now, the Lyngdorf is crying out to me andi won't be gun shy next time. I wish you the best with your health, get well soon. 

Teajay, thanks again for another great review. I'm glad my room isn't large enough for the Ulfbehrts since I can't afford them 🤑 I'll have to settle for the measly SE's ;)