Dealers hijacking the discussions

Let’s put this all in perspective. I never mind dealer or manufacturer who discloses his interest and comments on his own products or on things of general interest. In fact, it is often very informative and helpful. It is all in the way that they present themselves. For example: 
1-A helpful suggestion, comment on appropriate ancillaries, comment on how to use the products a poster manufactures or sells and many other types of posts by such folks are welcome.
2-A naked shill who invades a thread having nothing to do with his products, talks on and on about himself, his reputation and experience while denigrating others among his ranks and who is out to steer the OP away from the product the OP has clearly decided upon in the hopes that the OP will purchase his products or that others in the thread will learn about his products---not welcome.
If all dealers and manufacturers followed 1 above, this forum would be fabulous. If they followed 2, it would be hell.

Gr4blu what would you learn?

You certaintly would not find out about a possible new and better product than what you are allready considering?

The point is what if  poster x on a forum was introduced to a product they never had thought of and  this product sounded better or saved the OP money you presume  the OP is going to be happy or not?

You cry shill and troll the fact that many people feel that your tireless attacks do not serve  this forum and are in equil bad taste.

The point really should be is the product a valid recomendation that the OP may like? 

Your world is a world were anyone pitching a new idea should be shunned because they dared to do so. 

Many people who are actually shopping for something are oftentimes happy to discover a brand or a propuct they didnt know about.

If you didnt attack us then the response would be brief.

The point really should be is the product a valid recomendation that the OP may like?

The point actually is whether the recommendation is valid (or perhaps 'uncolored' would be a better adjective) due to the fact that your livelihood is selling what you recommend. That is the true elephant in the room. To suggest otherwise is disingenuous.
In my world, I never "shun anyone pitching a new idea". Neither am I so naive that I imagine salesmen are doing so because they only want to help me.
This will be my last post on the subject, Dave.

Did I miss something?
I don't see any comments from geoffkait!